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memere 12-22-2007 09:10 PM

Anything else than supercharge or turbo???
 
I have a stock 2005 GT. I have been using the ZEX Nitro System with a 125 shot. My best run on the 1/8 mile is 7.91. Other than supercharging or putting a turbo is there anything else I can do to give it power. Somebody mentionned putting a 5.4 Triton engine. I can see any difference. 300hp and 360 torque instead of 320. Is there anything else that has really worked...

Ponyryd 12-23-2007 08:37 AM

Heads, cams, bigger displacement, tune, different gearing, remove weight, etc....there are things you can do-but the best for a DD would be a Kenne Bell blower IMO.rockon:

94STANGR 12-23-2007 09:58 AM

Supercharger and turbo give you the best reliability with the kind've power boost you'll get from it. Heads, cam, etc can affect driveability imensely.

What is your main use for this car?

memere 12-23-2007 02:07 PM

I drag race with on the weekends. 1/8 mile at 7.91 with 125 shot

Stang Illusions 5.0L 12-23-2007 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Ponyryd (Post 88795)
Heads, cams, bigger displacement, tune, different gearing, remove weight, etc....there are things you can do-but the best for a DD would be a Kenne Bell blower IMO.rockon:


Originally Posted by 94stangr
Supercharger and turbo give you the best reliability with the kind've power boost you'll get from it. Heads, cam, etc can affect driveability imensely.


Agreed, couldn't have said it any better.
If your looking for small things there is also Under drive pulleys, Aluminium drive shaft, Throttle body etc...

Natural Blond 01-09-2008 07:00 AM

Hey everyone I'm new to the site. memere you ask the same question I've been asking builders for weeks now. And it does depend on how or where you intend to drive it. I've had some good discussions with sutton racing, and if your looking for n/a they are currently working on a cnc head and cam install under their BEAST packages should be out in 2 weeks. Still it is true no replacement for displacement.5.4 L swap very interesting. How bout 351 swap?

dohp 01-09-2008 01:08 PM

not many things other then super/turbochcharging, nitrous, or a built n/a motor. Aside from loosing a little weight, which won't help to much. Going to cost money no matter how you look at it

memere 01-09-2008 05:11 PM

What's an N/A motor?

dohp 01-09-2008 06:50 PM

n/a = naturally aspirated, meaning it breathes on it's own, it's not forced induction,
i don't know what 1/8 mile would convert to in the 1/4 mile, but turbo/supercharging is the way to go if you want more power then nitrous, you are looking at engine work after that though to maximize the power and not blow it up. you could run 5-ish+ PSI probably with no problems if tuned properly, but i'll let someone with experience suggest what would be best with your setup

where abouts is the drag strip by Sherbrooke? my grandsparents live outside of Sawyerville (20 minutes south east of sherbrooke) and i've never seen a strip in the area.

memere 01-10-2008 06:19 AM

It's in St-Élie D'Orford. Look up Dragst-elie.com and you'll see the directions to get there. It's an 1/8 mile stip. Lots of animation. They give your time on the radio. I've been to Sanair & Napierville and the only I like about those places is it's a 1/4mile.

Natural Blond 01-10-2008 10:00 AM

I think the most hp you'll get with an n/a 3valve stock bottom end is about 400rwhp. with a forced induction anywhere in 400+to 600+hp.also ford crate engines available 4valve 4.6L maybe even supercharged version,and maybe 5.4L supercharged. big bucks though!

brade07 03-30-2009 10:28 PM

A fairly cheap option to a crate engine as well is buying a lightning motor and swapping it in. I've heard they swap in relatively easily, they are much cheaper than a crate and they are very relaible motors. 340hp 390 tq stock and that can be increased very quickly with these motors.

brade07 03-30-2009 10:29 PM

Also after you swap in the lightning motor, you could still get decent cash for your 4.6 3v

revv 04-03-2009 07:01 PM

Try this for about as much NA as you will get from these motors.Not cheap though, when compared to a blower.YouTube - 350 rwhp N/A 2006 Mustang Gt

brade07 04-03-2009 07:52 PM

I woudlnt go by this you tube video, either the tune on that mustang is way off, or the parts they picked arent working together at all! A mustang with that much done to it should be making quite a bit more than 350rwhp. With these mods it should be close to 400rwhp, there are guys running these same mods only without the heads, and making 380rwhp. Also the price for these mods arent that much, the only real expensive piece is the new heads, which when only making 350rwhp isnt necessary at all the stock heads are more than enough. Cam $300.00, intake & chip $600.00, exhaust $400.00, headers $350.00, xpipe $350.00. Dyno tune $200.00. These mods should get you close to 350rwhp and total price $2200.00 And the only thing you may need to be installed at a dealer is the cam, although it isnt too hard of an install, everything else can be done with minimal mechanical experience. The most you should spend on these with labor about $4000.00


This is still priced under the retail price of a forced induction kit. Plus you wont make anymore than 400rwhp on a stock 3v 4.6L. Even after the kit is on you still should put exhaust headers and a cam along with new plugs and a dyno tune. All together for a forced induction kit done right! (In other words you wont cook your 4.6 after 1 year) you'll be spedning close to $8000.00

revv 04-08-2009 07:18 PM

First of all your pricing is way off for 3V engines. Secondly, there is no way "a lot" of guys are running 380rwhp with those modes unless they are stroking the bottom end to 5.0l. JDM was getting 400rwhp with a stroker and many mods. Please check your facts.

tear u a new 1 04-09-2009 09:41 AM

here , say it with me boys and girls. turbo . lmao. depending on how crafty you are with tools and have time. you can build your own turbo set up very cheap. follow somebody elses set up or you can get a already built set up cheap. for the price and the pain in the ass it would be to put a 5.4 ( , wiring hassels , ect) in there and only gain minimal gains i would do a turbo set up. imo. :tup


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