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03GreyMach1 01-30-2005 11:19 AM

O2 Sensors and A/F Ratio
 
I and trying to figure out what the A/F ratio is based on a voltage reading from a O2 sensor

So far I know that a reading of.1 volt is lean and .9 volts is rich.
14.7 : 1 is at .45 volts.

Anybody know what is the optimal ratio (I think 13:1) and what would that equal in a voltage reading from the O2 sensor?

I picked up this package called digimoto and it is for reading different sensors from the ODBII port... also has a built in dyno feature... kinda neat diagnostics software, also reads and clears codes.

03GreyMach1 01-30-2005 12:23 PM

OK found some stuff if anyone is interested...


0.97V - 12.1:1 - Very Rich.
0.88V - 12.7:1
0.78V - 13.2:1
0.69V - 13.8:1
0.59V - 14.4:1
0.49V - 14.9:1 - (Stoich-)
0.39V - 15.4:1
0.30V - 16.0:1
0.20V - 16.5:1
0.10V - 17.1:1 - Lean

P.Meister 01-31-2005 04:42 PM

Stoich is 14.6:1

I would not consider very rich 12.1

Any reason you are trying to figure this out? Maybe we can point you in the right direction

03GreyMach1 01-31-2005 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
Stoich is 14.6:1

I would not consider very rich 12.1

Any reason you are trying to figure this out? Maybe we can point you in the right direction

I have a hardware/software package that allows monitoring of sensors through the OBDII port. Just want to gain the information to understand the data when I start looking at it... and of course to possibly tune the engine with a handheld tuning device like SCT or DIABLO.

And yes I know you guys do that stuff and will consider that option down the road as well.

Cheers!

P.Meister 01-31-2005 09:43 PM

You will not be able to monitor A/F with a stock 02 Sensor or accuratly by monitoring V

'Best bet is a wideband commander or LM-1

techrtm 01-31-2005 11:53 PM

Yep! 12.1 is not RICH! have to agree there! on both get a Wideband for a accurate reading! LM or even WMS

03GreyMach1 02-01-2005 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
You will not be able to monitor A/F with a stock 02 Sensor or accuratly by monitoring V

'Best bet is a wideband commander or LM-1

So if these sensors are not accurate and you tune the car how is the tune accurate?

Do you make use of the factory sensors for tuning or do you put a different one in to tune... I'm confused?

What good is a tune if it still uses the factory O2 sensors?

Khaine 02-01-2005 08:43 AM

the O2 sensors on the car work fine for what they are meant for, which is a very narrow range around stoch, or 14.7:1

that being said, to tune properly, you need to put a wideband O2 sensor in one of the pre-cat bungs to get proper readings.

03GreyMach1 02-01-2005 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Khaine
the O2 sensors on the car work fine for what they are meant for, which is a very narrow range around stoch, or 14.7:1

that being said, to tune properly, you need to put a wideband O2 sensor in one of the pre-cat bungs to get proper readings.

So is that just for tuning? Do you take it out after it's tuned or leave it in?

Still trying to understand the whole process.

Scotts88 02-01-2005 09:44 AM

If you take it to get it tuned, they usually have a a/f meter whick they put down your tail-pipe. This is a wide band 02 sensor. They tune with that. They remove it when theyre done tuning the car.

If you buy a wide band 02, then you weld in a bung after the cats or around that area and install the sensor. This remains there all the time as you have a guage and can constanty monitor the a/f reading.

Some dyno shops will weld a bung in and install the sensor and simply remove it and plug it when done.


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