Open discussion on new flash tuner
 

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=548499

Got my SCT Xcalibrator dissapointed!!

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Purchased my Xcalibrator from Dallas Mustang today and I do not noticed that much of a difference!!
It came with a 93 octane program that they said they tweaked from the base program that SCT provides. It still feels sluggish on the throttle response and no noticable seat of the pants difference.
Anyone have a xtr file that they could email me to try? I would email you the one that I have for you to try out.
Only mods are k&n filter, sct and hydro carbon removed.

What should I do??
Please help!!
Thanks,

This was from the above post just curious what everyone else had heard?

This was another
http://forums.modulardepot.com/show...&threadid=53548

I at times was going to bring one in? any thoughts or heard anything?

if you want to take a shot at the Steeda.ca guys, do it directly.

the round about way is lame and I can see right through it :rolleyes:

PART 388-9300 Xcalibrator From Steeda Autosports we are direct wholesale distributors for this product through Steeda /SteedaCAI?

No shot we actually have pointed customers in Pauls direction at times..

If you don't want to discuss this topic openly like other forums I suggest you create another thread or suggestions to keep this Forum moving and interesting.

Taking a shot at us for posting/pasting the concerns of other enthusaists is well :rolleyes:

Save your energy and post something interesting about Mustangs! :tup

If you are disappointed send it back! ( I know not you)
I would try and get my money back! but maybe thats not a option???

I have seen many threads supporting flash tuners and trashing them. I'm not convinced that any of them are worth the 500 plus they want for them.

In the end if the only way the difference can be felt or seen is through a dyno then I would want my money back too. I would want to FEEL a difference.

Maybe that tune is not right for that setup??? I have read exactly the opposite for predators, I don't think it's the product as much it is the WRONG tune for that car. Best to use what product your local tuner uses, that way you can get it tweeked. Out of the box tunes do not seem like the way to go for any product.

Being a Diablo dealer I'm sure you know what is involved with tuning???

This thread can turn into a huge debate and in the end we will be no further ahead (I think)

BTW I do not own a flash tuner but have extensively researched them on many other forums. They all end the same way 50 50 split. Some like diablo some like SCT and some don't like either.

If you want some more reading... read this:

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=31043

Lots of tuning discussion here:

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...isplay.php?f=9

Happy reading!

Peace,
Cheers,
Roger over and out.

As far as tuning goes I like the TwEECer RT
Don't think it'll work with the 05....yet

Your not talking about the Xcalibrator II are you...cause it also datalogs which the X one does not...From what I read from the X-II I cant wait to get my hands on one :tup

We have guys who bought the Hypertech when it came out...$459.00 and you cant programme it and it takes 25min to remove the flash...you dont know what crap is till you own one of these.

The Focus of this Thread was enthusaist feedback on a Product. regardless

Since the inception of this forum or since we have started posting..we have always stated use what your closest tuner uses.

IF you READ the post you would acknowledge this..

Furthermore as Bizness states "Hypertech ..and you cant programme it and it takes 25min to remove the flash...you dont know what crap is till you own one of these."

It does not matter what you use..just don't expect miracles from a generic tune" this was the focus....

See your Tuner.. some great tuners use SCT Ken Bjonnes MD Forums as posted.

We have the ability to use and sell both.. What we perfer means nothing " its what the customer wants"

A properly tuned SCT or any tuner would have to make power, it all depends on who tunes the damm thing. How could it not make power? Send it back to get reflashed if it isn't working. Bump up the timing on any car, and adjust the A/F ratio and your guaranteed at least 10 to 15 rwhp.

For example, I installed the Steeda T/A and gained quite a bit of power, especially down low. Since a properly tuned SCT or any type of tuner does basically the same thing plus has the ability to change the A/F, it would have to work.

I have tuned about 30 2005 Stangs and have had nothing but praise and compliments....not knocking DM, but it may be the tune.

The flasher is just a tool, it is the brilliance of the tune that makes it work.

yea yea yea

We all know your a big Diablo fan and would like nothing more than to make it sound better.

How about share some bad experiences with Diablo? :LOL:

Come on guys....let's keep it clean even though you are defending me and the products I use. I am sure they meant no harm in the post

???? there is experiences on both sides of the coin..

again this is not the focus of the thread.... :rolleyes: :confused:

the bottom line is we use what works the best! for the benefit of our customers.

I don't think this thread is about you. It's about a bad tune from a product out of the box.

The unit it self has NOTHING to do with the results that customer experienced....plain and simple. It is just a device to deliver the tune...same as the predator. If the tuner would have put that tune on the predator, the results would be the same.

With the Xtreme Tuning software, there is nothing the Predator can do that the XCAL cant...and wait until the Xcal II comes out....

In searching the net this afternoon there are also lot of guys who praise the X...
Obviously there using the X-I.
The abilities of the X-II make it far superior then anything I've seen on the market today. I know our guys with the Hypertech will be sending them to e-bay very soon. Cant wait to see if the X-II lives up to its hype!

I was thinking of getting this tuner but again found out that they were coming out with something new. On another board they are Diablo crazy and that is all they talk about. They all love em. I am not too confident in any out of the box hand held tuner as the basic tune does nothing more than advance your timing. That being said I purchased one.:) I knew right off the bat I caould not do any changes to air or anything that would adjust for a tune. I used it to change my gear and that was about it. The tune is on the car but I do not think I can really tell a difference. I used the 91 octane but the car was already 91 octane. :)

Anyway, with all the hand held tuners out there it seems for user adjustability the Diablo tuner has lots of perameters that can be changed/adjusted. Their counterpart has that also. The Xcalibur does not have things you can change but it allows you to hold more than one tune plus come with a factory tune.

Like many have mentioned the out of the box tune sux. If you want it done correctly go see a tuner.

If I was in this business I would see what customer demand was and try to stock both. This is just and observation but it is funny when you go to the bigger boards and someone says wow this diablo/SCT tuner is great. They all rush out and get on th eband wagon. A few things trickle down and now I am reading this is not working and the website tune # blah blah blah is corrupt. Crazy electronics. Leave it to the pros to tune. I just need a place to store it, wow the Xcalibur can do that for me. Nice.......... Peace.

I am not trying to Start a war or anything, or trying to sound like I know all (sometimes it comes out this way, which is not intnetional) but this is my take on the situation and opinions (I am sure the same go for the Predator stuff) and I am not going after anyone...just responding to comments as they come up:

If a SCT dealer loads a "generic" tune, this is no where near a basic tune that just increases timing...this is a full custom dyno tune by Chris Johnson and Jerry W of SCT.....SCT and Superchips Inc (producers of generic hand held flashers such as a 1725) are not the same company, do not sell the same products or use the same tunes.

With XtremeTune Software (free to download), the Xcalibrator can basically do everything the Predator can and can hold up to 3 tunes and the factory tune....you just get the file from your tuner and tweak it on the PC rather than the unit itself.

Even though customer demand is high for Diablo, we have stayed away from their products for various reasons....I have nothing against the Predator and the unit's themselves, but I find the SCT Dealer software to be far superior in addition the guys at SCT are top notch...I was even down there in June....the software and skills the tuner has makes the result great...the Flashers are just a delivery device for the tune

There are so many debates about which unit to get and they both basically do the same thing....this is my reason for saying find the person you want to tune your vehicle and use the hadrware they sell....you believe in them to tune the vehicle for you, so you should trust their choice in hardware/software.

You will find the people who are Diablo or SCT crazy but I think they are more tuner crazy and love what the tuner has done to the vehicle (which happens to be on a SCT or Diablo device)


Just my .02


I will now put on my flame suit :rolleyes:

Well stated Paul. Now tune my car sometime Paul. :) Maybe in the spring. Peace.

Ok here goes !

BUY what your TUNER uses! who the hell mentioned Diablosport?

We like Diablosport and SCT (superchips :chacha: just kidding!)
but tune with Diablo..Dam the tuner uses BullyDog too etc...if it works great!

Im glad I got this forum moving! Dammitt! sick of talking about lightbulbs and sparkplugs!

NEXT!

chips/tuners
 

Do these devices work on 5 speeds or just automatics?

Both^^^

S/C cars usually have more gain from flash tuners...that and big turbo trucks...lol

30 2005's
 

Who are you trying to FOOL.
I haven't even seen 30 2005's on the roads yet.
Always trying to impress people.....Hummmm

Maybe you meant 3

now we are debating how many 05's Pauls tuned...this thread is funny... :laughhard

Not sure where you live.. but I've seen dozens in Windsor. The GTA is a much bigger area with more people, so I don't doubt there's atleast a thousand 05s out there driving around.

05
 

A Ford worker parks his 05gt right in front of the house. Black with a grey stripe down the middle. Not sure if I like it. Blue with a white stripe or visa versa might be better.

I sent 12 tunes to the US in the past 2 weeks.....My post saying 30 was correct.

Anyway, back on topic.....the Xcalibrator is a great device

Wow
 

12 Tunes To The Usa
Very Impressive
I'm Very Curious To See How These People Like There Tunes.
Maybe You Can Pm Me Some Name And Numbers
Not All 12 Maybe 6?
Thanks I'll Wait For Your Pm

This thread is going nowhere :banghead: :wtf:

Here's what you should do. Go to Steeda.ca/MPW and speak with Paul in person. Tell him to his face that he's BS'ing.

Things are very easy sitting behind a computer.

Your motives on this forum are clear. We get it. Post constructively or take a hike. Simple. :biggrin:

tuners
 

Remember God loves everyone. And to think I have not been in a church in 20 some years. :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard

Unfortunatly I can' do that, I am in no position to give out customer information...not even email's.

However, once our new testimonial section is complete you can read about it online.

Let's get this thread back on track....and provide people with usefull information

I'd like to see BigPsi post pics of his car...and share some positive experiences from his shop of choice.

After all...these forums are created to share personal experiences and knowledge...with the ultimate goal of happy and informed enthusiats.

So share please...not opinions on other peoples' work...share opinions on the work you've personally experienced.

I've done this...and I'm proud of the result, and the team responsible for the work. So should you be with your scenario.

Using a forum to attempt a blow towards one shop's work doesn't do squat for credibility...probably has the opposite effect really...share the positives...and show the work...back up your positive experiences with results.

If you approach the "online" enthusiast community in a proper fashion...the hard work and results will be noted. If you approach the community in an attempt to bash the work of others...you look like a young thug with a vendetta.

Peace. :cheers:

"I know what you're thinking punk. You're thinking did he fire six shots or only five? And to tell you the truth I've forgotten myself in all this excitement. But being this is a .44 Magnum - the most powerful hand gun in the world and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question--Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk!"

Get it together!

First off and foremost call BS on someone if it is legit! esp. ME! if you can..
but at least back it up with facts..don't just attack people thats crap.

You should celebrate the Fact Steeda.ca is:
one! in Canada..
2 doing great! Cheers on the new shop Space Paul!
3. Is building Fast Stangs and representing Canada!

It's a great thing to disagree! and share opinions and ideas. We will always bitch Im sure. Call each other on .

But we don't bash each other! that's Bullshit and so far from being constructive!

The Bottom line is you have some great people on here! Scott from VT, Wayne from BB, Paul from Steeda.ca and many many more even Steve :)

Remember what your mom always told you. If you do not have anything nice to say SHUT UP! :laughhard

Extremely well said......this is why you are the man......no one else but you.

Kudos on your expanding business as well and the work you and WJ @ BB are doing......that Lightning was INSANE and I am oh so jealoud