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P.Meister 02-10-2005 11:02 PM

If you have tried one and can honestly say it is not better, more accurate and allows for better WOT and drive characteristics and easier to work with..something is up :confused:

try clocking it to 10 :chacha:

BrownBrosPerf 02-10-2005 11:27 PM

Actually I am using the Maf X-Tenders with the Ford sensor and they are working well. I still trust the base electronics of a Ford sensor more than the SCT one.

P.Meister 02-10-2005 11:35 PM

I GUARNTEE the SCT Meters, made by the same company who makes ford meters with tweaked electronics are just as accurate.

MJ's extenders are great as well

BrownBrosPerf 02-11-2005 08:50 PM

OK latest update from dyno today. The car = 2001 Bullit.
Mods :
Diablosport chip
Granetelli Maff and filter
Customer was concerned with detonation and loss of power at high rpm.
First answer to what he could do was....

wait for it....

"Remove that POS GMS and put on the stock one, I have seen cars make more power and cure drivability problems by removing them and using stock."

So he does that last night and brings it to the dyno.
we make a pull with the stock maff and k&n
255rwhp with consistant 12.8 a/f
We then swap the GMS unit with filter back in.....
225rwhp with 16:1 a/f

So I go back to my previous reccomendation...
Stick with the stock mass air flow sensor untill it will no longer flow enough air for the engine, then upgrade to a larger FORD meter and use a maff extender. If this was a supercharged engine not just N/A... it would be to late :banghead:

Scotts88 02-11-2005 09:37 PM

i dont think either of ya will win the argument. Lets just keep it clean :tup

P.Meister 02-12-2005 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by BrownBrosPerf
OK latest update from dyno today. The car = 2001 Bullit.
Mods :
Diablosport chip
Granetelli Maff and filter
Customer was concerned with detonation and loss of power at high rpm.
First answer to what he could do was....

wait for it....

"Remove that POS GMS and put on the stock one, I have seen cars make more power and cure drivability problems by removing them and using stock."

So he does that last night and brings it to the dyno.
we make a pull with the stock maff and k&n
255rwhp with consistant 12.8 a/f
We then swap the GMS unit with filter back in.....
225rwhp with 16:1 a/f

So I go back to my previous reccomendation...
Stick with the stock mass air flow sensor untill it will no longer flow enough air for the engine, then upgrade to a larger FORD meter and use a maff extender. If this was a supercharged engine not just N/A... it would be to late :banghead:

Yes, a maf like that will need a custom tune...but once it is custom tuned it will show way better results when tuned

We are both right, just have different choices :cheers:

BrownBrosPerf 02-12-2005 01:31 PM

Actually I did a custom tune with one on a 99 cobra, replaced it with stock meter and retuned. 10rwhp more. It to was a GMS unit. In all honesty, a aftermarket maff is NOT required and will NOT make more power on a tuned car unless the meter is pegged. Save that extra $400 or so for something better.


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