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gt98 10-23-2006 02:04 PM

tb spacer problem
 
i installed my tb spacer today but i couldnt get the car to idle properly id get it to idle just below 1thousand then id tap the gas up to 3 thousand then the car starts to sputter like its gonna die out cause the rpm would play from 500 hundread to about 9 hundread rpms..

on my second attempt the car would rev at 3thousand rpm and i wouldnt even have to apply gas to take off.. but the car didnt sputter this time lke its gonna shut off.

anyone experience this before??? i really dont wanna play with the throtell idler much cause im sacred im gonna mess it up even more any suggestions or tips???...

1low03gt 10-23-2006 05:52 PM

Did you install everything back to where it should be.When i installed mine,and fired it up after i was done,it rain just like it did before the spacer was on.Almost sounds like you got a vacuum leak.

gt98 10-23-2006 09:02 PM

i checked for gapping air around the tb but theres nothing... i keeped re-adjusting the brackets that extends the cable linkages and it got better each time the idiling.. but it would get worse once i started to drive it.. it would get stuck at like 3thousand rpms.... :confused:

Ponyryd 10-23-2006 09:32 PM

Sounds like a throttle linkage/adjustment problem to me, is it possible the throttle linkage is contacting something it wasn't before? Disconnect the linkage and check for smooth operation of the cable-it should move very easily. I'd also make sure nothing is contacting the throttle plate.

gt98 10-23-2006 11:08 PM

yea it was moving freelly before... it justwhen i rev it it would rev high and stay that way or it would go back down to like 500 rpms or so and jump up and down sputering... i tried re-adjusting the extension brackets for the cables and i would get it perfect on idle until i start driving then it would get weird

Stang Illusions 5.0L 10-24-2006 01:10 AM

Humm that is wierd!, It kinda does sound like a vacuum leak to be sure use propain...and if it is not the vacuum, It is for sure a throttle linkage, and/or cable.......Oh did you put the return spring back on your throttle linkage?

gt98 10-24-2006 11:11 AM

yea i put the spring back on that was the only thing i disconected from the linkaged.

in the kit they gave me a extra bracket for extending the cables that are mounted on the plenum am i supposed to use that one too??? but were would it go...

1low03gt 10-24-2006 09:03 PM

Sorry,i didn't realize it was the spacer that goes between the throttle body and intake,thought it was the intake spacer.LOL
Still sounds like a vacuum leak.though!!

gt98 10-24-2006 09:44 PM

how abouts can i go ahead and fix the leak :confused: .. sorry im a newb at this... i made sure i couldnt feel no air scapping threw?

Ponyryd 10-25-2006 05:39 PM

You can try to locate a possible vacuum leak by spraying some WD-40 around the area and listen for an RPM change. Is the car stick or auto?

gt98 10-25-2006 05:44 PM

yes the car is stick.. and yes when i had it on i did here a rpm change... so im guesing if the WD-40 bubles up im gonan have to tigthten the bolts more correct?

Ponyryd 10-25-2006 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by gt98
yes the car is stick.. and yes when i had it on i did here a rpm change... so im guesing if the WD-40 bubles up im gonan have to tigthten the bolts more correct?

No, when spraying in the area the RPM should raise, if it does-you have a leak, usually not a loose bolt problem, more of a bad/improperly seated or missing gasket problem, is it possible something is pinched between the spacer and the T.B.? Is it possible something is contacting the spacer/t.b. that is not allowing it to seat properly? Maybe snap some pics of the install for us.

gt98 10-25-2006 06:11 PM

ok sounds good i will try to get another crack at setting it up tommorw hopefully the rain well hold off..

gt98 10-27-2006 02:39 PM

alright guys i just got it figured out what i was doing wrong... i was mounting the extensions for the cables improperly because when i put the brackets on the throttel linkage would have a gap between the idle adjuster and the linkage.. so i made sure the linkage is touching the idle adjuster now so the car idles at in between 1000 and 500 so now when i hit the gas the car no longer sputters to shut off..

gt98 10-27-2006 02:40 PM

and one more thing at what rpms do u guys idle at?? just want to make sure

Ponyryd 10-27-2006 06:28 PM

So it was a linkage problem then? It should idle between 6-800rpm. Glad to hear it's fixed.

gt98 10-27-2006 06:53 PM

yeah dude i can feel a bit of diffrence.. the peddal feels more sensitive and tends to do a lil screech of take off..

but thank you u guys for helping out

Terminal Velocity 10-31-2006 04:44 PM

i had a similar problem
 
i installed the intake and Tb spacer kit a few weeks ago i found the linkage extention brackets are alittle mickey moused for my liking and now my cold air intake hits the strut tower because everything is offset 1". everything is moved over as far as it can go (CAI) so i might keep the intake spacer and dump the TB spacer. when i changed my TB i ported the outa my upper intake anyway so i dont think ill need it.

gt98 10-31-2006 05:56 PM

i have the same probablem as well.. my intake is touching the mount... im just going to put a rubber piece in between. thumb:


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