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Scones 12-31-2004 03:09 PM

Aluminum Heads
 
Anyone know of an aftermarket aluminum head that will work with the 86's flat top pistons?

Schlodes 01-02-2005 08:47 AM

I'm not 100% but I think one of the Trickflows will due to the way the combustion chamber in them is... I think the Twisted Wedge..??

Stock cam lift only though I think.. [I could be wrong - might be able to do 1.7 RRs.]

red82gt 01-06-2005 01:12 AM

Edelbrocks with the 1.90 intake valve or AFR 165's would be the best bets. You' likely be stuck with stock cam timing though.

mise 01-06-2005 09:34 AM

Alluminum Heads
 
They Will All Work If You Have YouR Pistons Flycut And Then Your Eng Will Also Except A Camshaft. The Fly Cut Is Not As Costly As You Probably Think.

Scones 01-08-2005 10:23 AM

No interest in having the piston flycut, or ever swapping a cam. I know AFRs won't work, and 99 per cent sure the Edlebrocks won't work either.....

I did read somewhere, from someone with an 86, that they were running a certain kind of aluminum head that fit with his flat tops....the twisted wedge strikes a bell, but I'm not sure.

canadian94gt 01-08-2005 12:09 PM

If you are going with aluminum heads I would think you would want to upgrade your cam and intake also so you could get the full potential out of the heads.

Scones 01-09-2005 11:32 AM

the intake would be upgraded, the cam wouldn't....simply put, more cam with flat top pistons equals boom.....

mise 01-10-2005 08:36 AM

Fly Cut
 
If A Fly Cut Job Is Worth $200 And The Pistons Dont Have To Come Out Is It Really Not Worth Putting A Cam In?

sleeper91 01-14-2005 07:21 PM

I have to say that you should really think about fly cutting your pistons it will give you way more choice`s when it come to head selection even if you don`t want to change your cam, which you might want to do later in the build of you car.

Dech #009 01-23-2005 08:53 PM

Twisted Wedge Heads will fit an 86 block with no problems what so ever. You can even go to an aftermarket cam, but then you'll be limited. Also limiting you will be the fact that your car is Speed Density and they get pretty picky on cam choice, as they like alot of vac to run properly. The stock cam is no slouch as some think it is. It's a very good street cam, and 1.72's would help it out.

Scones 01-24-2005 12:32 PM

I have absolutely no desire for an aftermarket cam as this car will see boost,
I've thought about having the pistons fly-cut, but 1) i don't know anyone who has had this done so I'm leary, and 2) I don't even know anyone who would do it with the motor still in the car (I didn't even think that was possible lol).
Another reason I'm not interested in a cam is because I'm planning staying speed density (even when i boost it ;)) and I've seen people run well into the 11s personally with the stock cam and have heard of much faster...

Dech #009 01-25-2005 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Stock865.0
I have absolutely no desire for an aftermarket cam as this car will see boost,
I've thought about having the pistons fly-cut, but 1) i don't know anyone who has had this done so I'm leary, and 2) I don't even know anyone who would do it with the motor still in the car (I didn't even think that was possible lol).
Another reason I'm not interested in a cam is because I'm planning staying speed density (even when i boost it ;)) and I've seen people run well into the 11s personally with the stock cam and have heard of much faster...

Staying SD with boost is not that big a deal. Done it before. I'm changing to Mass air basically to go with larger injectors and dump the FMU. The stock cam is a good choice for a blower motor.
Lots of people have had their pistons flycut. I know J&P, when they were together used to do it. Mine will be getting done this year as I'm going with AFR's. Shops can do it with the motor in the car. I'll be removing my motor and taking it to Beatty & Woods, because I also have a custom cam, and some other goodies to go on the motor, and it'll be easier for them to do it. I also found out that flycutting is not that expensive. Well under $200. It almost costs that for the proper tools to do it. Those bits are expensive.

Scones 01-26-2005 08:34 AM

jmboss actually pm'd me the other day about flycutting, letting me know that his shop in brantford which is not far from me does it with the motor still in the car for around 200 bucks. I'm gonna have to think about it for sure.

we installed some afr heads last summer on schlodes' car, and the thing screams now. i'm gonna have to think about it seriously now lol....

Dech #009 01-26-2005 11:54 AM

Don't think too hard. My buddy put the TW heads on his 8r with a TF intake. The car is totally different and he still runs the stock cam. The TW's are good heads and will fit an 86, no probs.

Scones 01-26-2005 02:41 PM

I did some serious looking at the Twisted Wedges, I checked out the summit catalog too, and they have a couple efi kits...there flow numbers are pretty good too....I may end up doing that in the end. I think the financial situation this summer is going to limit me to either schlodes' untouched e7 heads, or maybe if i can get the money a set of thumper ported e7 heads...

Dech #009 01-26-2005 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Stock865.0
I did some serious looking at the Twisted Wedges, I checked out the summit catalog too, and they have a couple efi kits...there flow numbers are pretty good too....I may end up doing that in the end. I think the financial situation this summer is going to limit me to either schlodes' untouched e7 heads, or maybe if i can get the money a set of thumper ported e7 heads...

Ok, this is just my opinion, but I wouldn't waste my time with stock heads...E7's. Just save your cash and do the heads once. Why spend cash on a similar mod twice. It's not like a stock 87 and up will walk away from you and by adding E7's, you won't walk away from them either. The 86's with their crappy heads are plenty fast, as far as stock goes. They just run out of gas a little sooner then the E7's. A good exhaust with headers etc., will help them out alot. Good luck with whatever way you choose to go.

Scones 01-27-2005 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Dech #009
Ok, this is just my opinion, but I wouldn't waste my time with stock heads...E7's. Just save your cash and do the heads once. Why spend cash on a similar mod twice. It's not like a stock 87 and up will walk away from you and by adding E7's, you won't walk away from them either. The 86's with their crappy heads are plenty fast, as far as stock goes. They just run out of gas a little sooner then the E7's. A good exhaust with headers etc., will help them out alot. Good luck with whatever way you choose to go.

Schlodes' untouched e7s wouldn't cost me a dime....he said they're mine to use if i want to....they are better than the e6 heads, and once I accomplish my goal of a 12 second pass with them I have no real desire to keep them.

BOSSMAN 02-10-2005 08:59 PM

Don't give in...... Cut stock upper in half, install 1.94 in E6 and let me know how far in the 12's the 86 goes.......end of story. :tup


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