rebuilding costs
 

ran a compression test on my car last night b/c it has felt gutless for awhile and is smoking very badly, this is what i came up with across the board
#1 80psi
#2 65psi
#3 112psi
#4 120psi
#5 100psi
#6 125psi
#7 112psi
#8 120psi

now my question is what a rebuild cost?....i pretty much want all new gaskets and seal (valve seals, head gasket, rings, etc etc done.....the motors a carbed 306, also do you think it would b worth it to stroke it to a 331 ,347 etc?.......and would it cost much more do you think?.......iv had several motors rebuilt but with my family mechanic who always did it for beans, but has since sold his shop and moved on....

That's odd!!! How many K are on that motor? I just had the heads off mine last weekend, she's got over 315,000Km on her now, and all the crosshatching was still in the cylinders, no ring ridge, nothing, like new in there. I haven't done a compression test yet, but since the car runs mint, I don't think its in need of one........Strange how some wear and some don't, as mine is the second one I've seen with the crosshatching still present.

Don't cheap out on rings and bearings, if you can get the rebuild work done for a good price, invest the extra money in good parts.

Stroker motor = big bucks if done properly.
IMHO.........give Jeff a call at Beatty & Woods.
905 405 8505

call the boys at boss they will give you the straight scoop.......jay and brad build em right ..
1-866-913-2677...tell em largeman sent ya... :tup

Just did my stroker motor at Beatty and Woods, awesome guys to deal with.
PM me and i can give you some details. Or just call Jeff as mentioned above.......
Figure though at least $3000 for a good job.

ya im def gonna save my coin, cars not gonna see the road this summer unfortunatly....im gonna save,save and save for a 347 stroker, its my goal for next season...how much more power does a 347 stroker make compared to a 306?...

Its not that easy to ask that question. You have to take a lot more into consideration. Which heads and intake are you running? Cam? Exhaust? I would recommend a 331 stroker over a 347. It also seems that Beatty and Woods have been experiencing some problems lately. I would go to Paul at PSP for a nice engine build, he's got tons of stroker experience. Personally, I like a nice long rod 306 over a stroker. If I were to go stroker I'd go with something small like a 317 or so. Give me a detailed description of the rest of the parts on your motor and maybe you can have a reliable and budget conscious 306 that still hauls ass.
SS

I would say
 

for your basic rebuild I would say 1200 bucks.. thats if most parts can be re-used and the block does not need bored out and new pistons are needed.. ect...

I just got done building my DSS 331.. for cost difference.. its a big difference.. lots of hidden costs with doing a stroker.. certain things like new flywheel.. matched to the balanced weight of the stroker kit like 28oz.. need some good heads if ya wanna make some good power.. upper and lower intakes.. the stroker kit it self....the list goes on..

What kind of power are you looking for and how much cash are you wanting to spend?

Just because one person on this board had an issue, unless you know something else, doesnt mean they have issues. My engine was done professionally and with care. Believe me I stopped in to see them and take pics every step, because i wanted to for my records. The little extras they did on the block and balancing were awesome and very top notch.
I am all for each one of us supporting our own shop, but again unless you know all the details.................
BtW i agree for the street a 331 is much better than a 347.

thats right! when u get your motor built make sure u can watch the steps when they do it... if anyone ever buy short blocks/ long blocks... that are inhouse builds from a big motor company be aware... make sure u check everything!!! When production gets high... quality goes out the window.. well all know this.. so just becareful no one wants a new motor that breaks shortly after getting it... many High Performance motors also do not have any warranty

Just got my short block done at Beatty and Woods, and shes running real nice !!

Had the cylinders honed, block tanked, new bearings, ARP main & rod bolts, Moly rings, and had the pistons fly cut.......all for under $1400 taxes in. Mind you I reused the stock pistons (didn't overbore it).

SS...............as you well know any shop that does engines, especially modded ones are gonna have an issue from time to time. In my eyes a shops true worth (or any person for that matter) is what they do in that odd instance where one does turn bad. Beatty and Woods have been around for ever and have an impecable reputation of before and after sales service.
I am however in no way putting down your shop of choice...........we all have out favorites.

Now, I'm not knocking B+W. They've been around for a long time and I've always given them commendations because they've had a great rep. But I'm not talking about just one guy on this board.... I do happen to know some people outside of the net :LOL: Some guy in a black coupe approached me the other day and offered me a whole slew of Stang parts cuz he's getting out of the hobby due to a problem he had with his B+W built motor. I'm not knocking them, hell, even PSP has had the odd problem. I was just saying that they've had some issues as of late, might want to hold off until they get things sorted out. But I stand behind PSP not only because they're my fav shop (even though I always build my own motors and do my own work), but because I respect and admire Paul.
As for the motors, I just prefer a smaller small block not only for the practicality but once you start adding cubes to an already modded H/C/I 302/306 your parts will run out of breath.
SS

righ now as sitds the cars got

ported 351w heads (they gotta go)
ford racing 1.6 roller rockers
x-cam
edelbrock torker intake
holley 650dp carb
scat crank
long tube headers
msd 6al
msd blaster coil
ford racing dizzy
n.o.s nitrous kit (200 shot)
pulleys

If your on a budget your heads will do just fine as will the rest of your stuff. Get yourself a fresh short with forged pistons and re-use your existing cam etc and have the heads freshened up. You've got the makings for a 325-350 H/P motor plus NOS. Nice reliable street blaster combo.
If money allows a set of small valve Edelbrock Performers would really bring it to life.

ya i plan on having the motor done over the winter months this year, by then me and my generous g/f should have some good $$ to play with for a new motor set up....prolly around 5,000 or so

Even the fact that I had a small set back with Beatty and Woods ( Which in turn was worked out by Jeff,Chuck and Mike) I still would not hesitate to use them again!! I know their track record and reputation.......... But as is always the case and point..........Use whomever you wish or feel comfortable with!!!!

iv decided a 347 is def what i want....i wanna build the motor so it can handle a nice big shot of nitrous also

347 is always the way to go !!!!!
 

just do some research
there are only a few engine shops that
specialize in strokers. most have many components in stock.
some builders are just known for their strokers
347 build big powerbands , lots of torque.
you can't go wrong with a good 347.
street combo will dyno 360 to 400 hp at
the rear wheels.


check some of the cmoc advertizers


good luck

greg. :tup

My brother's friend has a 347 stroker that dynos at 550hp to the wheels. The car is just insane and when he stepps on it (full exhaust) it sounds like the world is going to end. So they definately make good power.

yeh can't wait to spin mine on the dyno!!