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to owners of newer Mustangs but where have all the vintage Mustangs gone?
There just seem to be so few out there any more. I like the newer Mustangs but my favourites are the early ones. I can only have 1 so I stick with the old boat. For those of you with an old Mustang do you have a new one too? Why did you buy an old one rather than a new one? For those with a new one and not an old one, why did you decide on a new one? |
The problem is the pricing on the old one have almost gone beyond reach. I've been looking for a 64 1/2 red vert for the longest time. The ones I find are very expensive. To the point that I could buy another new mustang for less.
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I grew up with the old ones but currently only have a new one. I like the styling of the vintage cars but as for power, ride quality, handling, comfort etc the new ones are so much better.
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Thought about old many times but when I talk to guys older than me (older than dirt) they tell me their cars don't stop turn etc worth a huwie. I would resto-mod one if I ever did purchase one
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Sometimes it's a question of reliability in a daily driver - newer car less likely to leave you stranded, but happens to the best of us. On the flip side, at least with the older cars, you at least had a chance of doing some sort of temporary fix to limp home. No offense at all.
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Last year my brother did a full frame off resto-mod of a '76 Firebird. He spared no expense. It has the Pontiac 455 with aluminum heads, EFI, roller cam etc. and a Tremec TKO 600. He completely rebuilt the drivetrain, suspension, steering, added sound deadening, new interior etc. The car is gorgeous (for an F-body) but still has that shake, rattle, clunkiness of a vintage car. It's really difficult (if not impossible) to get a vintage car to feel as tight and smooth as a modern car. It's equally difficult to get them to make the same kind of reliable power or any kind of fuel economy. Styling and cool factor favors the vintage cars but that's where it ends.
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I have the 67 and a 2000 GT. I drive the 67 as much as I can and I've upgraded many things to make it more enjoyable (i.e. 5 sp, 4 wheel disc brakes, etc). I drive them depending on how I feel that day.
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I like the old,but i wanted a new "virgin" to me to start with,and hold on til i can no longer drive.LOL!
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Originally Posted by pprince
(Post 133901)
to owners of newer Mustangs but where have all the vintage Mustangs gone?
There just seem to be so few out there any more. I like the newer Mustangs but my favourites are the early ones. I can only have 1 so I stick with the old boat. For those of you with an old Mustang do you have a new one too? Why did you buy an old one rather than a new one? For those with a new one and not an old one, why did you decide on a new one? I think they are still within reason for pricing. 12-30k. Yea, its a huge spectrum but i guess it comes down to trim, rarity and restoration. The market is hurting, people need money and I think the time is now to buy if you wanted one. |
I'd agree that the time to buy is now. But I've never priced anything vintage.
I bought new for the warrenty piece of mind, but also cause I know that I plan to drive it well after its paid for. |
Aint that the truth
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I'm only 30 so I didn't grow up with the classics. In all reality I may feel this way about the fox cars in another 10-20 years as those were my 65-69 Mustangs. The "classics" for my era are cars like fox stangs, Buick Gran National, 91 Trans AM GTA, SVO Mustang, 92 ZR1 Corvette, 98 Viper to name a few. I love to look at old cars and respect them but driving them is a whole other story. My dad had 66 Fairlane 390 GT 4 speed and I was so excited when I got to drive it but found it felt very slow compared to my car at the time which was a bolt on 2000 Mustang GT. New cars have all the bells and whistles, are safer, driver nicer and in my opinion are more fun to drive.
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I'm 34 and I've owned my 67 for 17 years and I will tell people if you haven't driven in a nice classic around town/city you have no idea the feeling you get and the extra feelings you get when you get thumbs up you get from people. Especially with me from owning and driving a car like this at such a young age (people don't expect someone so young to own a vintage car). With today's cars, there are so many of them on the road you just blend in with others. Sure we all get the odd "nice car" once in a while but nothing compared to the vintage ones.
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Classic or new?
My first car was a classic Ford Muscle car that was older than me. My second was an old Mustang. I'm just getting to the point where I can get my cars back on the road. The 37 year-old car I wanted 20 years ago came up for sale so I sold to buy the one I wanted for so long... That was difficult but yes the classics are still out there and I agree it is a good time to buy. Why did I buy an old Mustang? As kwkenf said, the old cars have curb appeal and I also like the shake and shove of an old muscle car. I'm just driving instead of phoning (bluetooth of course), SYNCing the iPod, or otherwise multi-tasking. Do I like the ABS, Airbag, AWD induced safety mindset of a daily driver on my way to work in the winter? Sure. Do I think the later and newest Mustangs look and sound great? Do they have years of advanced technology on the classics? Absolutely. Do I like knowing I need to have my eyes on the road and know what I'm doing when the tires bark as I shove the toploader into 3rd? Definitely! I can't wait for Spring. |
Originally Posted by kwkenf
(Post 134014)
I'm 34 and I've owned my 67 for 17 years and I will tell people if you haven't driven in a nice classic around town/city you have no idea the feeling you get and the extra feelings you get when you get thumbs up you get from people. Especially with me from owning and driving a car like this at such a young age (people don't expect someone so young to own a vintage car). With today's cars, there are so many of them on the road you just blend in with others. Sure we all get the odd "nice car" once in a while but nothing compared to the vintage ones.
^^^ What he said ^^^ The 82 Capri is a nasty little street car, but goes unnoticed (except for cops & gearheads), while the stock 69 Beetle or 79 Fairmont wagon has people smiling & waving, with the kids punchin each other out over the Bug. Lots of fun!!:tup |
Originally Posted by CRASH
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with the kids punchin each other out over the Bug. Lots of fun!!:tup
I did that all the time :chacha: |
Originally Posted by kwkenf
(Post 134326)
I did that all the time :chacha:
LOL My 26 year old will still surprise me with a good shot to the arm once in a while, payback I guess, I used to hammer him all the time, he'd get SO pissed!!:lol |
It is the entire driving experience I like about the old car.
It has manual steering with a Shelby quick steer kit on it. Manual front K-H's 4 piston discs with the 10 1 1/2 inch Fairlane wagon drums in back. I had a Toploader but switched to the TKO which is like a better Toploader but with OD. These old cars are driving machines. You, as the driver, are part of the experience. These old cars can be made plenty fast and have incredible handling. As far as them being priced out of range, what does a new Mustang cost? More than an old one. |
Originally Posted by pprince
(Post 134351)
As far as them being priced out of range, what does a new Mustang cost? More than an old one. When I was in Saginaw last August I went and looked at this one. it was clean but pricey. http://www.oldcaronline.com/ocdetail416187.htm you can find ones for $10k, but they also need thousands of dollars to become something you would be proud of. |
I have learned to be skeptical of sellers.
That Mustang is not being sold as a real GT nor as an A code. It needs more investigation. It is a beautiful looking car though. |
Originally Posted by pprince
(Post 134356)
I have learned to be skeptical of sellers.
That Mustang is not being sold as a real GT nor as an A code. It needs more investigation. It is a beautiful looking car though. |
You sweet talker you :)
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If I bought an old car it would be a bubble top Chev 409 62ish. Sorry but I love those cars
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Originally Posted by SNAKEBITE
(Post 134424)
If I bought an old car it would be a bubble top Chev 409 62ish. Sorry but I love those cars
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Legendary has a 62 with a 348 tri-power and powerglide. They want ~$50k for it.
I think those are gorgeous cars too. |
I am thinking that the 3 of us may be a little older to appreciate their beauty but I could be wrong. It has happened once before in 1986 lol
Oh of coarse "she's real fine my 409" |
I feel old today
btw, I am 54 |
Originally Posted by pprince
(Post 134446)
I feel old today
btw, I am 54 Birth Certificate says 59, brain stuck at 18.:wtf: |
Which brain? The upper one or the one in your pants?
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Ah good I was right
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Originally Posted by pprince
(Post 134536)
Which brain? The upper one or the one in your pants?
Both runnin about the same. :tup:cheers: |
This is a fun discussion. :tup
I'd just like to add that old cars can be a good investment if you shop wisely. My 1968 has appreciated a lot since I bought it in 1996. If I had bought a brand new 1996 Mustang instead, it would be go for a fraction of its original price as a "used car" today. KWIK ENUF has the right idea--have one of each if you can! |
^^^I have always wanted to purchase a mint fastback but alas I have yet to pull the trigger. One day maybe
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You can't compare an old car vs a new car.
The excitement from each comes from different areas of the brain. The new cars are hi-tech, comfortable, fast and stylish. The old cars hit you at a more visceral level. My old Mustang is loud and fast and demands a lot more attention when driving. Manual quick ratio steering, manual disc brakes and a manual transmission on an style suspension hits you differently. Still fun though and I would not trade it for a new car :) I drove my 65 to the 1994 30th anniversary Mustang show in Charlotte, NC. No way I would do that again but it would be a cake walk in a new Mustang. |
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