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FRed-Cobra 02-24-2014 10:54 AM

KYB AGX Shock and Strut
 
Hi all !!

I'm looking to replaced shocks and struts on my Cobra. Need something to match my eibach pro-kit.

Any comments about KYB AGX?? or any suggestion??

fast Ed 02-24-2014 07:01 PM

Konis or Bilsteins are the best if your budget allows. Sometimes you can even find a good deal on some low mile original 03-04 Cobra Bilstein front struts, those would be perfect. For the rears you have to get the aftermarket Bilsteins because the IRS Cobra shocks don't work with the giant lamppost that you have for a rear axle on a pre-99. :D


cheers
Ed

FRed-Cobra 02-25-2014 10:14 AM

Thanks Ed!! :tup

I make a quick search on Rockauto.com 2004 Mustang Cobra:

- MOTORCRAFT Part # ASH24461 {#3R3318006CA, 3R3Z18124CA, AST44}
Front; w/o Appearance Package CAD$175.67

- MOTORCRAFT Part # AST65 {#3R3V18A084AA, 3R3Z18124DA}
Front; Total Performance Package CAD$343.94

is it Bilstein front struts ford replacement parts??

Steeda have bilstein struts Part Number: 395-V36-4138-HI: 274$
Bilstein Front Strut 395-V36-4138-HI - Steeda.ca

They are not cheap !!!

FRed-Cobra 03-03-2014 11:00 AM

question for all

What's your favorite suspension setup or setup you are running ??

ChadStang 03-03-2014 10:31 PM

Maximum motorsports makes some really nice stuff

FRed-Cobra 03-04-2014 06:20 AM

Thanks ChadStang,

Yes I know, but I order there full lenght subframe connector a year ago and it cost an extra 89$ shipping and handling from UPS at delivery...

fast Ed 03-04-2014 06:17 PM

DaSilva Racing in Pickering Ontario is a dealer for MM parts, you can go through them. Might be someone in PQ that is a dealer too.


cheers
Ed

FRed-Cobra 03-05-2014 02:02 PM

Thanks Ed.

What a suprise this morning, CJ Pony part handle Bilstein part now!!! :tup

Bilstein Mustang Strut And Shock Kit B6 Hd V6/GT 1994-2004

Also free shipping today and tomorrow !!! :D

what a great deal !!!

fast Ed 03-05-2014 06:22 PM

Great price for that package. Better off spending a bit more than you would on KYBs, for a much superior product that will last the balance of the life of the car.


cheers
Ed

FRed-Cobra 03-28-2014 11:39 AM

Received my Bilstein shocks / struts and MM caster camber plate !!!

http://6underscore.files.wordpress.c...3/imgp0001.jpg

fast Ed 03-28-2014 06:48 PM

Good stuff ... you're going to love them!


cheers
Ed

FRed-Cobra 03-29-2014 08:10 AM

I need to wait for the end of April to take out the Cobra.

I can't wait to installed my new setup... May seems so far

FRed-Cobra 05-17-2014 12:34 PM

new goodies just delivered by fedex!!! :D

http://6underscore.files.wordpress.c.../new-parts.jpg


Front and rear coil springs Energy bushing
A-arm Energy bushing.
Rear Pro-Form controls arms (upper & lower)
MM Panhard Bar.
Ford Racing carpet.

ChadStang 05-17-2014 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by FRed-Cobra (Post 194682)
new goodies just delivered by fedex!!! :D

http://6underscore.files.wordpress.c.../new-parts.jpg


Front and rear coil springs Energy bushing
A-arm Energy bushing.
Rear Pro-Form controls arms (upper & lower)
MM Panhard Bar.
Ford Racing carpet.

Nice :tup

FRed-Cobra 05-18-2014 10:28 AM

Thanks Chad!

I hope with that new setup it remove all click clack suspension noise.

ChadStang 05-18-2014 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by FRed-Cobra (Post 194689)
Thanks Chad!

I hope with that new setup it remove all click clack suspension noise.

Should be like a completely different car.

TonyDee 05-20-2014 02:13 PM

Don't these type of uppers create a problem for street driving or are they rubber? I would like to use the same panhard bar and lowers, but with a torque arm setup.

Plagiarized from MM:

The best compromise between resistance to suspension bind, best control of axle position, best ride quality, and least potential damage to the chassis, is to retain rubber bushings in the rear upper control arms. This is especially important when adding a Panhard Bar. The compliance of a rubber-bushed upper control arm is required when a Panhard bar is added to the Mustang four-link suspension.

The Mustang's rear suspension design forces the upper control arms to perform two jobs at once. They control the side-to-side position of the axle housing, while also preventing axle-housing rotation during acceleration and braking.
The Mustang upper control arm design fails to perform either job well. This design causes binding of the rear suspension that not only leads to poor handling and traction problems, but also damages the upper control arm mounts on the chassis.

A Torque-arm Suspension System replaces the troublesome upper control arms with a Torque-arm and Panhard Bar. This separates the two functions once performed by the upper arms. The Torque Arm controls axle housing rotation during acceleration and braking, and the Panhard Bar controls the side-to-side position of the axle housing.

FRed-Cobra 05-20-2014 02:29 PM

Hi Tony,
you need to remove the upper control arms with a torque-arm setup.
Not in my case.

Check MM Torque-arm FAQ: for more info.
The Torque Arm: The best improvement for your solid axle Mustang

Do I have to remove my upper control arms after installing a Torque-arm?
  • Yes, the upper control arms must be removed.
  • The Torque-arm is not an add-on traction device. It is a fundamental change in the rear suspension design.
  • A Torque-arm suspension is a variation of a 3-link suspension. Plus a Panhard Bar.
  • Leaving the upper control arms in place would cause massive suspension binding because you would have both a 4-link and a 3-link suspension on the same car, with both systems trying to cause their own particular rear suspension motion.

Hey Tony, nice motor setup ... how much hp/tq?

TonyDee 05-20-2014 03:56 PM

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My point was you should not use the uppers in your kit, you should stick with the stock ones.

Presently I am at 375 RWHp 372 RWTQ, just upgraded my fuel system and will be going up from there .

FRed-Cobra 05-22-2014 10:12 AM

Hi Tony, Wow nice setup !!

Why stick with the old upper control-arm.
My plan is to replaced control arm with urethan bushing, and the differential bushing repladced with the original rubber.

FRed-Cobra 05-29-2014 10:19 AM

Rear suspension setup installed last saturday.

Installed need lower control-arm, panhard-bar, coil springs bushings.
The differential bushings where in good shap so didn't replaced them.

Hey Tony you were right about upper control-arm. I ask Maximum Motorsports about it. Here's the email reply:

Fred- Thank you for contacting us. You will want to maintain rubber bushings on both ends of the upper control arms. Any other firmer bushings you put in there, will cause bind. The upper arms need to change length when the car goes into a roll. If you have stiffer material in there they can’t change to the correct length, causing bind.
Sincerely,
Brian Gust
Maximum Motorsports, Inc.

Here some picts:
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TonyDee 05-30-2014 07:01 AM

Nice, this is the setup I will eventually go with. Are you considering the torque arm ? How does it handle now with the pan hard ?

FRed-Cobra 05-30-2014 05:06 PM

Hey Tony, it's awesome the differents, rest in a straight line on hard launch.

the torque arm required stiffer rear coil springs.... I don't know how it will affected daily driving confort.

Intalled torque-arm on your car and let me know !! :tup


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