Turbo / Nos / Supercharger
Which is it, which do you prefer?
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its a toss up for me, I love the ROOTS blower due to the amazing amounts of torque, but I also love the look and power of the turbo's, if you can get the turbo's to sppol up as fast as a roots blower I would say turbo's but I also just love the look of the Roots blower on top a motor, just too damn sexy lokin. :D
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ease of installation is good with a blower, power is better with a turbo. easier to tune a blower too i hear hmmm
i dunno which i would like more |
I would go with blower for the price.
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its all realitive. If you look at the entire cost, turbo's are not that much more expensive. Put a blower, fuel system (not FMU) headers, MAF, fuel lines and all the other items needed to get the car going. Then add all that up. Turbo kits come standard will all of that stuff.
Where turbo get killed is the 12 hour installation process. There a good comparison in this MM&FF. They do a shootout between roots/screw/turbo/centrifugal . Good read. |
Originally Posted by Speedtospare
its all realitive. If you look at the entire cost, turbo's are not that much more expensive. Put a blower, fuel system (not FMU) headers, MAF, fuel lines and all the other items needed to get the car going. Then add all that up. Turbo kits come standard will all of that stuff.
Where turbo get killed is the 12 hour installation process. There a good comparison in this MM&FF. They do a shootout between roots/screw/turbo/centrifugal . Good read. |
Darrin at Revn' High did one members on the GTAMC's. It was killer setup. 4.6 DSS motor with a single turbo (cant rmember what make). He killed the car dodging some animal appearently. Car was a write off. Too bad. Darrin will just suggest that you order a longblock and he can do the rest. The 4.6's cams are a pain, You can easily install them 180 degrees out. If you do that, bye bye motor.
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Originally Posted by AIRRIDE
I would go with blower for the price.
i would go turbo for all out power. i would put nos on both the above applications in place of the intercooler at the track and water injection for the street. |
Originally Posted by 91mgt
i would put nos on both the above applications in place of the intercooler at the track and water injection for the street.
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Originally Posted by Speedtospare
I got rid of the nitrous because it costs too much, Even using the washer fluid in your water injection is a pain, still costs money. Peronsally I would just rather twist the dial to the right and add a few more PSI. There are some great benefits to the alchol injection but I would hate ot be out in the middle of no where and run out. I dont think the advace timing would like the boost.
i have a cure for that... MSD 6BTM. twist of a knob and i am safe to beat the crap outta it with 87 octane :) |
There is something about opening the trunk at the races and opening the bottle. The reaction and attention you get from people is worth the set up alone. Turbo makes the most sense and power but tends to kill the 5.0 rumble. Superchargers are okay I guess. I would still love to have a 500hp all motor drinking gas under my hood.
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for track use - turbo
for street use - super :tup: |
Originally Posted by Crazyone
There is something about opening the trunk at the races and opening the bottle. The reaction and attention you get from people is worth the set up alone. Turbo makes the most sense and power but tends to kill the 5.0 rumble. Superchargers are okay I guess. I would still love to have a 500hp all motor drinking gas under my hood.
There is something about pulling up beside a guy revving the motor and hearing the blow off valve give that big "psshheew" sound. Nitrous is cool, but how about opening the hood to see a sheet metal intake and a big ass turbo sitting beside the motor. But were all different, and have different tastes ;) |
Originally Posted by Speedtospare
There is something about pulling up beside a guy revving the motor and hearing the blow off valve give that big "psshheew" sound.
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No argument with that Speedtospare, fact is I can't afford any of them! :LOL:
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you can get BOV's for superchargers too though :tup:
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Originally Posted by G-ForceJunkie
you can get BOV's for superchargers too though :tup:
i am running a 1G DSM BOV on my supercharger setup. Not for sound, but to protect the impeller when i close the throttle at high boost/rpm levels. |
s/c and turbo are tied...
me personally I like the s/c...power on demand kind of thing...even though I know the newer Turbos take less time now to make boost...still s/c for me... |
Originally Posted by Bizness
s/c and turbo are tied...
me personally I like the s/c...power on demand kind of thing...even though I know the newer Turbos take less time now to make boost...still s/c for me... |
Originally Posted by Speedtospare
Remeber not all s/c make boost instantly. Only the positive displacement type make instant boost, Centrifugal make little or no boost in the lower RPMs. Boost will increase with rpm. Same with turbo. If you have a large turbo, you may not be able to spool it until 4000 RPM, agin little boost untill 4000 and then it like being hit by a freight train.
Roots are awesome! :tup all have their pros and cons though. |
Naturally Aspirated !!!!!!!!!!!.. Like TC said, nothing like the lump of a healthy cam :tup , and the bark when the throttle is punched!
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Hey Old Guy...when you here my 2.8 whine you'll change your mind...
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As long as you can hand some of those NOS boyz (one in particular) their collective Arses... then that maybe true :tup
How the hell can you hear the whine over your exhaust? Now that system has a BARK! |
I'd rather have positive displacement blower.
Originally Posted by Bizness
Hey Old Guy...when you here my 2.8 whine you'll change your mind...
You need to be 2.8 to whine? LOL |
I've got nitrous right now, but I'd really like to go with a KB system when funds allow. Here's a link to a crazy vid, a KB'd GT and an insane turboed Fox, go to the vid "Last Night" :eek:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=20024 |
blower would be nice but for a nice ride for street and strip and relatively low cost i say nitrous..
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The poll is kinda flawed in a way, it really would depend on for what application, budget and technical knowledge, but i would have to say turbo's the ticket to big power.
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for the street i say nitrus is the way to go. theres nothing like hitting the purge at the lights and watching some kid in a civic try to keep up.
:) :tup |
For me.. It depends on the level of the car [is it bone stock? got stuff done..?] and kind of car I guess...
Overall I would say a turbocharger. Bit more of a pain in the ass to get all setup if the car didn't come that way, but its hard to deny the numbers people get with them be it a car that came with it or one that was added.. But.. I have always fantasized about putting a KB Flowzilla 2.2L on my LX set up for about 14 PSI on race gas. Easy install and all that TQ... :tup I always liked nitrous, but only if its a small shot on a stockish car... I had an 89 GT Cobra 5 speed back in 1996, and all it had done was a UD pulley kit, K&N panel, and ghetto cat back :Weird: We cut the muffs out and put flex pipe in their place cause we were going to the track that night [it had this 2" in catback krinkle bent exhaust.. where they got it I dunno] otherwise stock w/ 3.08s. It ran 14.19 @ 96 MPH.. seemed odd for being so stock.. but.. Anyways I added a dry kit, NOS 75 HP, and that car was a total blast and I took out alot of cars that had heads/cam/intake racing on street tires... barely beat my buddies GN that at that time was running low 13s @ 108 MPH on street radials. They all kick butt on the right car, I like turbos the best though. |
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