2005-2009 Double DIN Decks
 

Hey guys,

I'm looking into getting a new deck for my 2009 next spring and I want one of the double DIN video screen ones. Alpine, Pioneer and a couple of other companies make them. I need a deck that will still integrate my Satellite Radio and Ipod. It doesn't matter to me that I'm giving up my 6 disc CD changer. What are your thoughts?

I got a 6.1" touch screen pioneer in my 05. I has a high rms power output which is what you want if you are going to change all the speakers eventually. I has the two things that you want, I have my ipod plugged in In my glove box and control it from the head unit. Will you be installing it yourself or paying someone to do it. I am assuming that you have at least the shaker 500 if you have the 6cd changer. I'll take a pic of mine and post it when I get a chance.

Thanks for the info. Yes I have the shaker 500 system and will eventually like to change my speakers. Does it do bluetooth? I have an Iphone and was curious if I could use the radio, if not I was going to buy the clip on adapter for the visor. I'll be paying someoneto install it and was just curious if anyone else had it and if they liked it.

I don't think it does bluetooth but I'm not really sure because I never wanted it. I love my head unit and I have had compliments on it too, most people say that it makes the interior seem classier. All units are different though, they all have slightly different features so your best bet is to find a place that has someone who is knowledgeable. Also make sure that they know at the shop that the shaker requires a different harness than the basemodel. And that the 8" subs in the doors have their own amps in the doors with them, and that they turn on with 6V not 12V.

Go with a good Clarion unit. IMO they're one of the best. Don't worry about RMS power from the unit...If you're spending the money to get a touch screen video unit then spend a little more and use an amplifier when you replace your speakers. You should be looking for high voltage pre-outs and at least 3 sets of them (front, rear, sub).

Clarions are mid grade. Alpine and Pioneer are now the top 2 for head units. High voltage pre-outs are good but you don't want them too high if you plan on using a set for the amps that power the 8"s that are in the doors. It all depends how crazy you want and how much you want to spend. Why add another external amp and have to wire EVERYTHING when you can use the head unit and all the wires that are there and just replace the 5x8's. A head unit with high rms is the way to go man.

Graffs is right IMO.

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Pioneer is nowhere near top end...That's why CT sells it. If you're going into the Pioneer Premiere line then the product gets better but still nowhere near the top. Clarions are great units for the money that they cost, and you're correct, so are Alpines. If you want to talk real high end though IMO you're looking at stuff from Eclipse, etc.

I don't get it...Pre-outs carry signal form the HU to the amps...Average voltage on POs is around 4v with high end HUs at 6v and some from Eclipse claiming 8v. Higher voltage in your POs means better sound quality. Has nothing to do with power to speakers and wont blow your speakers. Also, if you're going to run an aftermarket amp you should definitely run aftermarket speakers.

It's not going crazy to me. If I'm going to spend money on a system I might as well do it right and get the best quality (sound, etc) out of it that I can...After all, that's the reason for the install in the first place. RMS power on HUs is false advertising anyway. You'll be lucky to get 60% of the power claimed b the box.

Wiring an amp in a car doesn't take much effort. Hardest part is getting wire to the doors. I started doing that stuff when I was 16 and I didn't know anything about it at all....I figured it out fairly quickly. It shouldn't take longer than 3-4 hours to do a basic install in a car.

Using factory speaker wire is also the wrong way to go. Poor insulation on thin wire = poor SQ.

If I were on a budget I'd do a little at a time. HU then wiring/amps/speakers. Today you can get all of those components for under $2k and have a decent sounding/looking system.

It's just my opinion but running a good HU with factory speakers is like putting rims on a Chevette. Waste of time & money.

I have a pioneer AVIC (CD audio version) with GPS, Ipod connection, Sirius Radio, Bluetooth and USB that I use with an aftermarket GUI interface and Infinity Reference series speakers with no sub woofer which was a remarkable improvement over the stock audio system in the 05 Mustang. I had all of that for much less than a similar Fujitsu deck alone would cost.

It really depends on how much you wish to spend on audio for your car as well as the media you wish to use, if you are playing mp3's you will not get the same quality you get from a CD or DVD as MP3 compression clips the audio samples to make way for storage concerns and no stereo will put back what isn't there to begin with.

Again ..... Graffs is right! (Thanks Graffs - your saving me a lot of typing!) ;)

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Im just here to help! ;)

Sorry but eclipse is . You want high end but alpine. I never said that high voltage pre outs would blow your speakers. They can over your factory amps that are in the doors though. Distortion will kill speakers before voltage will. The circuitry is on average not designed with high voltage in mind. Yes the factory wire isn't the best but putting in lower gauge wire does not improve sound quality. And the manufacturers have tested their products to provide those rms numbers and they are not bullshit. For example JL audio is notorious for under rating their speakers. On the box is the Max power rating. Max Power is the bullshit number that they use to make it seem like their is more power than there is. And I have also been installing stereos in ALL of mine and my friends cars since the age of 16. My stereo is so loud it will make your ears hurt while sounding great. If you can't make a stereo sound great with a good head unit, aftermarket speakers and a sub and an amp then you don't know . If you think that you need a couple amps and to rewire everything....go ahead but you just spent twice what you needed to.

LOL Yeah ok buddy! Eclipse is but Pioneer rules? This is what's wrong with online forums...Any idiot with an opinion steps up to the soap box and spews like a fire hydrant. I feel bad for any other idiots that actually listen to you...

What exactly does that mean? Did you not finish grade school or something?

I never said high voltage POs would blow your speakers either...That was you making the big stink about PO voltage and speakers, remember? scroll up if you need a refresher.
You did re-iterate my point though. Factory amps can get "fucked" and they are not designed with high voltage in mind WHICH IS WHY I RECOMMENDED DOING IT RIGHT, SPENDING A LITTLE MORE AND INSTALLING A REAL AFTERMARKET STEREO (amp, SU, drivers). If you still don't follow, that recommendation would include scrapping the factory amps and therefore eliminating the problem that you keep alluding to. If you'd like I can also post a diagram because Im getting tired of typing the same thing over and over.

Right...So Im going to run 150W from an amp to a driver on factory wire and assume that it will make no difference in sound quality...Tell you what, do a little experiment and run some OEM speaker wire right next to a nice 4ga. power wire from an amp...Turn on the system and tell me how it sounds...Do another experiment if that one doesn't work...Take off some of that cheap insulation on the factory OEM wire and crank it! That weird sound you may hear is your wires picking up engine noise.

Thanks for that lesson but, even the kid that sells the garbage from Best Buy knows that. I guess this goes back to what I said about under-rated power from the SU, right? Ok, if you think that those numbers are written in stone then here's another experiment for you...Just do a bench test on your SU and let me know how many watts it's actually cranking out compared to what it says on the face. Jeez you act like Im trying to convince you and the OP that I'm right. That's not what Im trying to do...Everything Im saying is just common knowledge among anyone who knows this stuff....and has been doing it since 16 lol.

Did I not say in a previous post that he should do an aftermarket amp, HU & drivers and he'd be fine? Thanks for letting me know I was right. Speaking of not knowing ; if you've been doing this stuff since you were 16 then you're probably still 16 because I'd sure as hell know if any of my SUs were bluetooth compatible before I pretended to know it all on the internet.

Get a life loser, all I was saying to the guy was that if he was going to go to the trouble of installing a deck he should just do a whole system and enjoy the better sound quality.

Good luck with the bleeding ears!

I think its funny that douche bags like you take all that time to pick apart over someones opinion on the internet. Sorry If I wrote "but" instead of "buy" does a spelling mistake really matter. If your ego needs you to bag on people just so you can keep your chin up than you might need some help. What year mustang do you have??? What do you got installed????? Or do you just talk on what to install but you don't have jack yourself? I have a pioneer head unit and apline sub, speakers and amp. It seems to me like your being the know it all and not me.

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Don't worry about what I have buddy. I'm not here to compare d**ks with some nimrod.
You can be sure though, that I have more than your basic set up in each of my rides...

Wow -I missed this little exchange.

Hey SNAKEBITE - where you at with your "bitter attitude" comments now? These two guys are getting into the hurt feelings, bruised egos and name calling already. I gotta start taking "how to" notes!!!

Seriously guys, not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm not a big audiophile anyway, so I don't really pay attention too much to what you're arguing about (with the exception of the chest thumping and name calling)

Gimme the sound of dual exhaust and smoking tires anytime. But, it has been entertaining. Since you're both in Ontario, maybe you need to meet up in person and discuss over a cup of Tim Horton's crappiest - I suspect the outcome might be different. Key statement in the whole exchange was "internet forum". Argue your points, be passionate about your beliefs, but jeez, not worth it to get all huffy. My two cents - please feel free to tell me to f@%* off, but do it nicely -this isn't The Den, and thus is subject to closer scrutiny by the Moderators. (hint hint)

Incidentally, my Shaker500 works pretty good!:biggrin:

Hey guys thanks for all the info. Didn't mean to start a fecal-throwing fest but anywho...is 2k a reasonable budget for a stereo upgrade with all HU, amp and speakers? I've done some perusing of East Hamilton Radio and they have some great products - those that can vary in pricing bigtime. Any place in particular you guys would recommend for buying the HU, amp and speakers?

Wow, that was entertaining.
As soon as you said that I knew you were from Woodbridge

LMAO! Awesome.

That budget will get you a very reasonable system that you should be happy with. I don't know the Hamilton area so I can't comment on any shops there, but I have heard of EHR and I believe that they do good work. That being said, I hear they can be pricey as they're a big fish in a small pond...

If you ever travel east to Mississauga there are a handful of good shops there too...

Dude, what colour are YOUR highlights? lol

Yeah, yeah, yeah! I live in the bridge but didn't grow up there...Far from...

:tup You're right man. I started out giving advice...things got outta hand. I can most definitely take my share of that blame. That being said, I won't be meeting up to discuss this over a coffee...Not worth my time.

On another note...This has turned into a pretty lively thread around here! lol

Wow all for a stereo system. I guess opinions are just better left alone regarding the responses they get.

Remember assholes are like opinions.....everybody has one.

There's been wars started over a lot less - going along with the assholes/opinions commentary, you could add taking things a little too seriously to the list as well.:biggrin:

I've only read a few of your posts but I think your pretty guilty in that respect as well...

Shaker500
 

Hi guys
I just a 2007 for my wife which has a Shaker 500.
I don't know much about it but it sure does seem like it is already connected to an amp system.
I read somewhere earlier that they have an amp in the trunk under the liner but I haven't looked there yet. This Mustang is a rag top and the back speakers are in the doors so Im not sure if the amp would be in the trunk.
Anyway what Im wondering about is; I have a Kenwood DDX376BT Touch Screen head end that I am thinking of installing. So what would I connect, the speaker wires or the audio out jacks? Im pretty sure the Shaker is feeding an amp also pretty sure Im going to have to use the audio outs but the wiring harness in the mustang is not fitted with RCA plugs.
so also wondering if there is some kind of adaptor harness to go from an after market head end using RCA's to the mustangs wiring harness to feed this amp(s)?
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the Mustangs head end harness?
Is there anyone out there thats done this before? I mean hoo an after market into the mustangs amp.

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Thanks
Gary
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