SNAKEBITE

X2 on the thinking as well. 30 years ago there would have been many times the guys that could do the job right, now they are retired or dead

Breakinparts

I think we are just a bit confused with this topic (and snakebite aint helping either) A carb is way more complex than fuel injection! Anyone can tune efi with the right program. There is may be a handfull of good carb tuners in all the states...95% of all stock car racers don't touch there carbs they are farmed out. I think it was 1986 or so that carbs were moth balled on production vehicles, you would think that 25 years should have been enough time to change every form of motorsports over......Just now nascar is going to try efi next year, not for performance but to make the sport cleaner!? Pro Stock is the most purest form of heads up racing..... all carbs, not because there faster because it takes skill and hard work and years of trial and error to get you combo to compete hence why the same racers have been in it so long. A change over to efi and anyone that can use a lap top is going to compete. Like everything else in the world any human involvement is replaced with technology. So instead of asking whats better, ask yourself .....am I afraid to run a carb because I don't know how it works? because in a drag race application its cheaper and lighter and makes more peak hp............. But the easy way is efi and while your at it put in a glide with a brake and air shifter, add a power adder so your fast, there done.....aw wait is there a computor program that will guarantee a perfect light??

Cuttincircles

Very well put I must say, but I will add that not anyone that can use a laptop can tune, cuz this guy right here can't. Haha However there are a lot of tuners that can't fine tune cars, they take the safe routes. I think good computer tuners are few and far betwee also, a lot are just third party companies selling pre-made tunes from the big guys. But I do agree with you, I see the reason (I can't believe I am agreeing with you) and might add that yourself is prob included pretty close to that handfull of guys. (S*^t, did I say that too, now your gonna be on a high horse forever.)

Breakinparts

Im refering to the high end efi systems not the one where you download a tune than load it in to the car. Thats not tuning thats guessing And Im not a carb tuner either I mean guys that can flow them and set them up for nascar /nhra/ihra and so on. A proper efi system you are able to change everything on your laptop at the track. Every cylinder can be tuned seperately anyone can run this system there is censors everywhere...if you were to run a carb on the same motor and have the same performance your name would have to be Warren Johnson(pro stock racer)

Breakinparts

Im refering to the high end efi systems not the one where you download a tune than load it in to the car. Thats not tuning thats guessing And Im not a carb tuner either I mean guys that can flow them and set them up for nascar /nhra/ihra and so on. A proper efi system you are able to change everything on your laptop at the track. Every cylinder can be tuned seperately anyone can run this system there is censors everywhere...if you were to run a carb on the same motor and have the same performance your name would have to be Warren Johnson(pro stock racer)

Cuttincircles

I see grasshopper, well I was refering to the average guy who gets his car tuned whether it be a 13 second factory car or a 9.93 type of guy, tuners of any kind come in a wide array of calibers.

Breakinparts

And thats why in this case the carb has a huge advantage as far as performance....I no what you mean it was hard to find a honest good guy that new his stuff and had the right tune for your car....but thats just a location problem if you lived in michigan how easy would it be? you never had the option to take your car to the shop and dyno it and develope a tune. How much power was still there?

Cuttincircles

Exactly, but then again, look at the issues I had in Michigan. I still wish I would have went carb.

CRASH

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^^^^^Ya, you wanna quit that!

Cuttincircles

I know, he doesn't need anymore to feed his pride eh, lol.