what is open loop and closed loop
05-25-2009, 11:26 PM
#11
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Yep agreed, carb is old school!!!
750 is to big, I agree with a 650..but I don't agree with the Holley part I would put on a Edelbrock. Best bang for the buck and its bolt on and go no bs screwing with it.
Again don't give up on the EFI, you will regret it in the end.
Good luck man, and keep us updated.
750 is to big, I agree with a 650..but I don't agree with the Holley part I would put on a Edelbrock. Best bang for the buck and its bolt on and go no bs screwing with it.
Again don't give up on the EFI, you will regret it in the end.
Good luck man, and keep us updated.
Edelbrock carbs are a waste of money.
These people that are telling you to leave it EFI appear to be completely biased. If you are more comfortable with a carb, then switch it. If you need help to get it running right pm me. Hell with a little time and effort we can even make the 750 that everyone here says is to big work on there.
05-26-2009, 12:47 PM
#12
If you can bolt a carb on and it runs right to begin with, You've done something wrong. They are never set up right out of the box, and need to be setup right per application.
Edelbrock carbs are a waste of money.
These people that are telling you to leave it EFI appear to be completely biased. If you are more comfortable with a carb, then switch it. If you need help to get it running right pm me. Hell with a little time and effort we can even make the 750 that everyone here says is to big work on there.
Edelbrock carbs are a waste of money.
These people that are telling you to leave it EFI appear to be completely biased. If you are more comfortable with a carb, then switch it. If you need help to get it running right pm me. Hell with a little time and effort we can even make the 750 that everyone here says is to big work on there.
750 on a stock 302 motor.....LOL cant wait to pull beside hes gonna smash on the throttle and your gonna see all this fuel get dumped in its gonna cough, choke, puke, right on the spot and the fuely at this time will be lets say......near finished :laughhard
But if this is what he wants to do....well this is ONE out of ten million problems to look forward too
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8G2KQmOZ-Q[/YOUTUBE]
LMFAO......
05-26-2009, 12:53 PM
#13
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you talk like you really have a clue. you have 500 hp and ran what? And now your trying to call people out? You really need to expand your knowledge base before posting crap like this!
I have something with an outdated carb on it your more than welcome to play with. Not to start a pissing match, but get a clue! There is way too many uninformed opinions on this site lately.
can you even count to 10 million? I don't think there is that many things that can go wrong on a car.
I have something with an outdated carb on it your more than welcome to play with. Not to start a pissing match, but get a clue! There is way too many uninformed opinions on this site lately.
can you even count to 10 million? I don't think there is that many things that can go wrong on a car.
Last edited by nickm50; 05-26-2009 at 01:02 PM.
05-26-2009, 01:01 PM
#14
Coming from a guy who likes both, they both have their places.
If somebody enjoys tuning their own vehicle, doesn't want to spend 1200 bucks on a tuning device, then a laptop....etc and is more comfortable with a carb, then by all means, a carb swap makes sense.
I've got feet in both boats. I was going EFI with the Capri; had been EFI, that WORKED WELL with my '87 GT, but have now decided to go carbureted.
Why?
1. Well, I sold HALF of my EFI stuff and was able to buy my ENTIRE carb swap. I'm MAKING MONEY doing this.
2. I will have the car RUNNING shortly. No more parts to buy.
3. Cleaner engine bay due to less wiring.
I'm running a 750 Holley HP. I wouldn't touch an Edelbrock (Carter) carb with a 10ft pole. They are great for Grandpa's hot-rod for tootin' around car shows, but for any real PERFORMANCE build, there is always a Holley or BG on there.
Nothing wrong with wanting to go carbureted, and for your MODIFIED engine (which sounds like the one you want to go carb'd on? Not the stocker that is in there?) the 750 can be made to work.
Don't sweat the propaganda, there are advantages to both sides of the fence, go to where you feel the most comfortable.
If somebody enjoys tuning their own vehicle, doesn't want to spend 1200 bucks on a tuning device, then a laptop....etc and is more comfortable with a carb, then by all means, a carb swap makes sense.
I've got feet in both boats. I was going EFI with the Capri; had been EFI, that WORKED WELL with my '87 GT, but have now decided to go carbureted.
Why?
1. Well, I sold HALF of my EFI stuff and was able to buy my ENTIRE carb swap. I'm MAKING MONEY doing this.
2. I will have the car RUNNING shortly. No more parts to buy.
3. Cleaner engine bay due to less wiring.
I'm running a 750 Holley HP. I wouldn't touch an Edelbrock (Carter) carb with a 10ft pole. They are great for Grandpa's hot-rod for tootin' around car shows, but for any real PERFORMANCE build, there is always a Holley or BG on there.
Nothing wrong with wanting to go carbureted, and for your MODIFIED engine (which sounds like the one you want to go carb'd on? Not the stocker that is in there?) the 750 can be made to work.
Don't sweat the propaganda, there are advantages to both sides of the fence, go to where you feel the most comfortable.
05-26-2009, 01:03 PM
#15
Well actually its 511, and it is only a little 302 nothing special...
So this is the only car ive owned?? Ive never had a carb before??
I only blab on from experience not from guess's
Like I said go carb and we'll see what happen's and when I say this, im saying a 750 on a stock 302.
What does this have to do with running my car??
My car vs. a stock mustang? anything is possible I guess I could spit a belt right?
Pull beside anyone is a figure of speech....
05-26-2009, 01:06 PM
#17
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Oh Nick comon lol
Well actually its 511, and it is only a little 302 nothing special...
So this is the only car ive owned?? Ive never had a carb before??
I only blab on from experience not from guess's
Like I said go carb and we'll see what happen's and when I say this, im saying a 750 on a stock 302.
What does this have to do with running my car??
My car vs. a stock mustang? anything is possible I guess I could spit a belt right?
Pull beside anyone is a figure of speech....
Well actually its 511, and it is only a little 302 nothing special...
So this is the only car ive owned?? Ive never had a carb before??
I only blab on from experience not from guess's
Like I said go carb and we'll see what happen's and when I say this, im saying a 750 on a stock 302.
What does this have to do with running my car??
My car vs. a stock mustang? anything is possible I guess I could spit a belt right?
Pull beside anyone is a figure of speech....
its an ignorant "figure of speech". I guess I am not most people and take comments like that quite literal. You never did say what you ran?
And, if your a carb expert, how do you tune one? thats 95% of the problem with them, is people don't know the first thing about them, and then class them as junk.
05-26-2009, 01:07 PM
#18
Oh Nick comon lol
Well actually its 511, and it is only a little 302 nothing special...
So this is the only car ive owned?? Ive never had a carb before??
I only blab on from experience not from guess's
Like I said go carb and we'll see what happen's and when I say this, im saying a 750 on a stock 302.
What does this have to do with running my car??
My car vs. a stock mustang? anything is possible I guess I could spit a belt right?
Pull beside anyone is a figure of speech....
Well actually its 511, and it is only a little 302 nothing special...
So this is the only car ive owned?? Ive never had a carb before??
I only blab on from experience not from guess's
Like I said go carb and we'll see what happen's and when I say this, im saying a 750 on a stock 302.
What does this have to do with running my car??
My car vs. a stock mustang? anything is possible I guess I could spit a belt right?
Pull beside anyone is a figure of speech....
Jet it down, put in mild AP cams and smaller squirters and the 750 will work. But of course you knew that already right?
05-26-2009, 01:09 PM
#20
Coming from a guy who likes both, they both have their places.
If somebody enjoys tuning their own vehicle, doesn't want to spend 1200 bucks on a tuning device, then a laptop....etc and is more comfortable with a carb, then by all means, a carb swap makes sense.
I've got feet in both boats. I was going EFI with the Capri; had been EFI, that WORKED WELL with my '87 GT, but have now decided to go carbureted.
Why?
1. Well, I sold HALF of my EFI stuff and was able to buy my ENTIRE carb swap. I'm MAKING MONEY doing this.
2. I will have the car RUNNING shortly. No more parts to buy.
3. Cleaner engine bay due to less wiring.
I'm running a 750 Holley HP. I wouldn't touch an Edelbrock (Carter) carb with a 10ft pole. They are great for Grandpa's hot-rod for tootin' around car shows, but for any real PERFORMANCE build, there is always a Holley or BG on there.
Nothing wrong with wanting to go carbureted, and for your MODIFIED engine (which sounds like the one you want to go carb'd on? Not the stocker that is in there?) the 750 can be made to work.
Don't sweat the propaganda, there are advantages to both sides of the fence, go to where you feel the most comfortable.
If somebody enjoys tuning their own vehicle, doesn't want to spend 1200 bucks on a tuning device, then a laptop....etc and is more comfortable with a carb, then by all means, a carb swap makes sense.
I've got feet in both boats. I was going EFI with the Capri; had been EFI, that WORKED WELL with my '87 GT, but have now decided to go carbureted.
Why?
1. Well, I sold HALF of my EFI stuff and was able to buy my ENTIRE carb swap. I'm MAKING MONEY doing this.
2. I will have the car RUNNING shortly. No more parts to buy.
3. Cleaner engine bay due to less wiring.
I'm running a 750 Holley HP. I wouldn't touch an Edelbrock (Carter) carb with a 10ft pole. They are great for Grandpa's hot-rod for tootin' around car shows, but for any real PERFORMANCE build, there is always a Holley or BG on there.
Nothing wrong with wanting to go carbureted, and for your MODIFIED engine (which sounds like the one you want to go carb'd on? Not the stocker that is in there?) the 750 can be made to work.
Don't sweat the propaganda, there are advantages to both sides of the fence, go to where you feel the most comfortable.
Do what you feel is best as mentioned...personally myself I would not use a Holley but thats just me, If I were to use a carb..."IF"... I would use a DeMon carb! But thats me!
Some people like Holleys, some like others!
