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def67 11-13-2015 10:48 AM

16 Focus RS
 
Well it looks like on ford.ca we can buold and price an RS. Starting at 46969!!!!! May as well get a stang!
I realize it a bad ass car with 350 hp and tourque but geepers!

Apocalypse Pony 11-13-2015 02:44 PM

Some of the traditional guys will say the golden era of muscle cars was the late 60's, but I'm saying that we're in the golden age of muscle cars now, right now. Look at all the different choices you have for serious factory muscle, right across the big three, all you have to do is walk in and order. (Pricing is another discussion, but you could walk in none the less). Who would have figured a little pocket rocket like the Focus RS ? Personally, I'd go for the traditional V8 muscle, but 350hp is a lot to stuff into a car that small, and its all about the power to weight ratio, just look at the ricer street bikes.

ChadStang 11-13-2015 03:08 PM

That car really intrigues me. It isn't cheap, but the thought of that kind of performance in a car that has some practicality makes sense to me. If you price comparable cars such as WRX STI, Golf R, etc the price is right inline. To get into a Mustang GT with the same type of technology in it you are looking at an MSRP over $50,000.

def67 11-13-2015 05:42 PM

I actually wouldn't mind the price if you weren't forced to get all the bells and whistles here in Canada. Why is that Chad? Like when I bought my mustang in 09 I didn't have the option to buy a base GT, only premium.

ChadStang 11-13-2015 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by def67 (Post 201691)
I actually wouldn't mind the price if you weren't forced to get all the bells and whistles here in Canada. Why is that Chad? Like when I bought my mustang in 09 I didn't have the option to buy a base GT, only premium.

I think in the case of a limited production car like this, it makes sense from a cost standpoint. As far as in the past with the Mustang, that never made sense to me. The base models were available in the U.S, but not here. Having the base GT here in the 2015-16 is great, that package is a real bargain.

def67 11-14-2015 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Apocalypse Pony (Post 201687)
Some of the traditional guys will say the golden era of muscle cars was the late 60's, but I'm saying that we're in the golden age of muscle cars now, right now. Look at all the different choices you have for serious factory muscle, right across the big three, all you have to do is walk in and order. (Pricing is another discussion, but you could walk in none the less). Who would have figured a little pocket rocket like the Focus RS ? Personally, I'd go for the traditional V8 muscle, but 350hp is a lot to stuff into a car that small, and its all about the power to weight ratio, just look at the ricer street bikes.

If the RS comes in under 3500 pounds its going to give the v8 mustangs a real run for there money!
I used to be big into the v8's but the more I've been on mustang forums the more I realize there is always someone or some new car that is faster, learner that the hard way buying a 10 gt lol. I really think my next car after the Tacoma is paid for is going to be either an eco-boost base or an RS focus if I can get one a little cheeper and with less options. Both would be really fun to me, and thats what counts to me now, not really having tons of power but enough to have some fun and pass people easily on long highway cruises.
Do you know Chad how long the RS is going to be made?

Apocalypse Pony 11-14-2015 09:57 AM

Yah, theres always going to be someone thats faster, thats why the whole racing thing never interested me much, from the perspective of doing it, not watching. You see guys on the other forums getting all bent out of shape about whose got what equipment, whose got more horsepower blah blah blah, and at the end of the day, all they do is keep chasing something they'll never catch, all the while spending wads of cash and breaking stuff. No thanks, I think you've got the right approach, go out, have some fun, and enjoy what you've got instead of trying to keep up with everyone else. ( A little racing humour there.)

Ray Spencer 11-14-2015 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Apocalypse Pony (Post 201687)
Some of the traditional guys will say the golden era of muscle cars was the late 60's, but I'm saying that we're in the golden age of muscle cars now, right now. Look at all the different choices you have for serious factory muscle, right across the big three, all you have to do is walk in and order. (Pricing is another discussion, but you could walk in none the less). Who would have figured a little pocket rocket like the Focus RS ? Personally, I'd go for the traditional V8 muscle, but 350hp is a lot to stuff into a car that small, and its all about the power to weight ratio, just look at the ricer street bikes.

I agree with the V8 muscle concept.

fast Ed 11-14-2015 02:18 PM

Different kind of car and different market than the Mustang. The $46K in Canada is also going to include a set of Michelin Pilot Alpin winter tires on 18" alloys, and I believe the standard tires are going to be the Pilot Sport Cup 2, which are basically track-ready. A friend that is a fellow track day instructor is seriously considering the RS, and he's always been a German car guy, currently a GTI owner. At least with the Focus RS it would still be a German-made car for him! LOL

Ford is looking for new customers coming from other brands with the ST and RS cars, not trying to take sales away from Mustang. Although the new gen Mustang has done a good job getting conquest customers too, especially the Ecoboost cars in the U.S.


cheers
Ed

Ohtobbad 11-15-2015 05:49 AM

I seen this car ( it was locked) and talked to one of the Ford performance guys.
This thing will be crazy fast. 350hp, working wings/splitters, hi tech suspension.
Big brakes and all wheel drive. all wrapped in a 4 door grocery getter style of car.
$46000. may seem steep, but considering the price of most cars today not outrageous.
Also it will be difficult to buy, as they are not making boat loads of them and
I don't think huge amounts to Canada, it will be a limited amount for sale.

If I could afford it, I would have along side my Mustang :)

Black Sunshine s197 01-18-2016 10:29 AM

Always liked the RS. Glad we can finally get one in North America now. Maybe they will be around $30k used one day which would be a bit more reasonable.

Apocalypse Pony 01-18-2016 10:54 AM

Not sure how long it will take prices to come down, they start at $47000cdn plus taxes. But, 350hp in an AWD 3200lb car is pretty sweet.

Black Sunshine s197 01-18-2016 10:55 AM

Ya probably a couple years anyways. If I had the loot, and room i'd pick one up for fun. lol

Ohtobbad 01-18-2016 11:07 AM

I think they will be a wicked car.
Sure gonna put a kicking to those cars in that class :)

Black Sunshine s197 01-18-2016 11:10 AM

Definately. I'd love to drive one on gravel!

Black Sunshine s197 01-21-2016 10:42 AM

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Apocalypse Pony 01-21-2016 05:21 PM

Ford is kicking butt with all these performance models, GT350, GT350R, Focus RS, and a new Raptor for the fall. Golden age of muscle cars right from the factory, right here, right now.

ChadStang 01-21-2016 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Apocalypse Pony (Post 202888)
Ford is kicking butt with all these performance models, GT350, GT350R, Focus RS, and a new Raptor for the fall. Golden age of muscle cars right from the factory, right here, right now.

Yep, and a newly announced Fusion Sport with 325 hp

2017 Ford Fusion gets 325-hp Sport model with AWD

Apocalypse Pony 01-22-2016 03:17 AM

Missed that one, pretty crazy number, I recall the Marauders had the 300 something hp Mach 1 engine, and the S197 I had was 300 hp, and that was plenty scary. lol Love it that a four door sedan gets AWD and 325hp, could be a classic sleeper. Golden age my friends, years down the road you'll be rocking on the front porch, reminiscing about being able to go into the dealer and order up some serious performance, just like they did back in the late 60's. Then you can curse out the kids driving by playing the loud music and doing a burnout in their Tesla.

ChadStang 01-22-2016 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Apocalypse Pony (Post 202896)
Missed that one, pretty crazy number, I recall the Marauders had the 300 something hp Mach 1 engine, and the S197 I had was 300 hp, and that was plenty scary. lol Love it that a four door sedan gets AWD and 325hp, could be a classic sleeper. Golden age my friends, years down the road you'll be rocking on the front porch, reminiscing about being able to go into the dealer and order up some serious performance, just like they did back in the late 60's. Then you can curse out the kids driving by playing the loud music and doing a burnout in their Tesla.

Yep, and telling them that the Golden Age of Rock was in 90's with bands like Nirvana and Soundgarden. And let's not forget about fashion, like the craze when kids thought it was cool to wear soothers and parachute pants (which I thought was dumb and still do)

Apocalypse Pony 01-22-2016 03:49 PM

There is no Golden Age of Rock, metal has grown and ruled supreme since the dawn of the 70's. lol

ChadStang 01-22-2016 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Apocalypse Pony (Post 202925)
There is no Golden Age of Rock, metal has grown and ruled supreme since the dawn of the 70's. lol

I don't disagree, I like a wide range of music. Except country music, I hate that lol. Your comment reminds me of this scene from Joe Dirt, but with metal lol.


FrankieMachina 11-09-2017 07:55 AM

Guy down the lake has one....pretty slick being white with carbon fibre wing and aero kit, he drops it into 2nd every time he comes by our place, then does his best Ken Block impression;) If I am calculating correctly he will go through 2 sets of tires every summer. My humble opinion is that Ford hit a home run with the RS.....very euro style and probably popular with the city street folk.

def67 11-09-2017 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by FrankieMachina (Post 209499)
Guy down the lake has one....pretty slick being white with carbon fibre wing and aero kit, he drops it into 2nd every time he comes by our place, then does his best Ken Block impression;) If I am calculating correctly he will go through 2 sets of tires every summer. My humble opinion is that Ford hit a home run with the RS.....very euro style and probably popular with the city street folk.

I really like them but 50000 bucks buys a nice mustang. If I could order a base model in Canada like they can down south I would have. I don' need the leather and bigger stereo etc.

FrankieMachina 11-09-2017 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by def67 (Post 209500)
I really like them but 50000 bucks buys a nice mustang. If I could order a base model in Canada like they can down south I would have. I don' need the leather and bigger stereo etc.

Yeah. Agree brother. I am not rushing out to acquire one. I can wrangle 2 nice cars for 50k. Local hot rodder is putting LS1 engines in 60/70,s trucks and 30 would get a nice rat rodded f150!!
cheers mate.


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