Not happy with steeda sport springs....
I lowered my car in early june with steeda sport springs and i am not happy with the rear. A good friend of mine thats a mod on the corral drove my car and said that the spring rate for the rear is way off and they compress too easly, this is causing the rear to "bottom out" on just about every little bump i hit. He than said i should take them out and get different one's because it will only cause damage if i continue to use it this way, needless to say i am totally ticked off with the entire issue. WTF should i do? Any suggestions?
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What does Steeda have to say about this? Those are what I have installed in my car. I haven't had a chance to drive my car yet (long story), but I'll be sorely dissapointed if the springs I was recommended are not suitable...
I'd call that a defect - do their parts have any form of warranty? |
Hey guys, these are the first complaints I have heard about these and the sport springs are known for having the best ride and being the best spring....possibly a bad run
If you purchased them from us, send me your email, full name and concerns and I will see if there is anything that can be done. On a side note, how do you have the rear coil spring isntalled? Where is the bottom cut coil facing (front or rear) |
They said i needed a pinion snubber and then tried to sell me one, i tried one off my friends car and it never fixed the problem so i am glad i didn't shell out the money for it. I don't drive my car very often, maybe once every week or so, and now my seat time will be even less because of this, i wounder if i got a faulty set? I will email the spring numbers to them so they can double check ,but as it stands now i am very pissed off about this. :dunno My springs are installed just as shown in the pic that came with them, it was double checked.
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I don't have any bottoming out problem at all.
My springs were installed in March of this year FWIW. I like a stiff ride, so I've got my tokicos set at the stiffest setting...and she's fuggin stiff alright...no hint of bottoming out. |
Our Mustang has both Eibach and Roush springs. Maybe the old owner had the same probs?
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Got my sport springs from Steeda last year ........even had them installed them and I have no complaints....though the back seems to be a llittle higher than the back but other than that.....awesome
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Direct Reply from Steeda USA:
"The spring spec in use has been proven for over a decade since we developed it. What shocks is the customer using? What do they have for lower control arms??? Our springs dont just bottom out on every little bump. Something else is wrong." This is a direct reply from Steeda USA. They feel something else is causing the issues you are having. We and they have installed a ton of these springs with no issues and they do not have any records of a "bad run" |
Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
Direct Reply from Steeda USA:
"The spring spec in use has been proven for over a decade since we developed it. What shocks is the customer using? What do they have for lower control arms??? Our springs dont just bottom out on every little bump. Something else is wrong." This is a direct reply from Steeda USA. They feel something else is causing the issues you are having. We and they have installed a ton of these springs with no issues and they do not have any records of a "bad run" -tried stock shocks -tried KYB's -stock lower arms / bushing are mint -stock spring isolators |
Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
Direct Reply from Steeda USA:
"The spring spec in use has been proven for over a decade since we developed it. What shocks is the customer using? What do they have for lower control arms??? Our springs dont just bottom out on every little bump. Something else is wrong." This is a direct reply from Steeda USA. They feel something else is causing the issues you are having. We and they have installed a ton of these springs with no issues and they do not have any records of a "bad run" |
Why not see if you can exchange them for another set?
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just a thought but if the sport springs lowered your ride did you trim down the rubber bump stops. that could be artificialy affecting your susp. travel and causing the "bottoming"
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Originally Posted by Scotts88
Why not see if you can exchange them for another set?
Thank you to Steeda.ca for trying. |
I am still trying to see if anything can be done, including asking other dealers
We have installed a ton of them and never had any problems...we actually just did 2 sets today and so far no issues. |
Originally Posted by bearfan
just a thought but if the sport springs lowered your ride did you trim down the rubber bump stops. that could be artificialy affecting your susp. travel and causing the "bottoming"
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Interested in selling them? How old are they?
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I installed them about 2 and a half months ago, car has low milage so they are as good as new, i am going to "try" and make them work because of the cost of them and so on, i will keep you posted..... :bleh:
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Originally Posted by 250rtone
I installed them about 2 and a half months ago, car has low milage so they are as good as new, i am going to "try" and make them work because of the cost of them and so on, i will keep you posted..... :bleh:
No problem! I am just about to order some springs and thought now would be the time to ask. I am getting some FMS "B" Springs. |
I have the B springs on my 2000GT and they're good. However, I've never heard of Steeda Springs going bad. In fact, if I did this over again I would have bought the Steeda springs. There are many GT's around here in Mississauga and Toronto that use Steeda parts and I've never heard of this problem. Remember I'm not flaming you, just trying to help you out.
Were they properly installed? Are the shocks dead cause when the car is lowered the shocks react differently. Case in point, My quad shocks leaked oil 2 days after I installed my springs and upr/lwr control arms. Get Steeda to replace the springs instead of tossing them. Let us know the results. |
Originally Posted by StratGT
I have the B springs on my 2000GT and they're good. However, I've never heard of Steeda Springs going bad. In fact, if I did this over again I would have bought the Steeda springs. There are many GT's around here in Mississauga and Toronto that use Steeda parts and I've never heard of this problem. Remember I'm not flaming you, just trying to help you out.
Were they properly installed? Are the shocks dead cause when the car is lowered the shocks react differently. Case in point, My quad shocks leaked oil 2 days after I installed my springs and upr/lwr control arms. Get Steeda to replace the springs instead of tossing them. Let us know the results. |
After a bit of research it is obvious where the flaw in these springs are. The Front Springs are a very stiff linear 650 rate. The rears however are lighter than stock! They are rated at 200-250 Progressive! The problem is now weight transfer. Because the front is so stiff (Compared to the rear), on a bump or wave the rear springs will take the transfer and the front will basically stay put. Forget about drag racing! The eibach Pro Kit has slightly stiffer rears but the fronts are a much lower rate Both Progressive Front425-530 Rear200-300. This allows the front of the vehicle to take some of the transfer distributing the weight evenly. On a Fox body the problem wouldnt be as obvious due to the lighter rear end but on a 99+ it would be terrible. The only way to overcome this would to overdampen the rear to compensate but ride quality would suck.
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When ever a spring fits "79-04" I believe it will be a comprimise on some of the years. How can one springs work on so many different body styles/weights? Then there are Manafacturers like H&R "79-93" then "94-95" then lastly "96-04". They have their shat together. My Supersports were great! Just too low and stiff for drag racing. I may go with the H&R Sports (for a "96-04!LOL). Then again...I did have a Pro-Kit in the Cobra before and it was fine, may just go back to them.
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[QUOTE=NXGHOST]When ever a spring fits "79-04" I believe it will be a comprimise on some of the years. How can one springs work on so many different body styles/weights?
They can't and in this case they don't. I would have expected this kinda nonsense from a fly by nighter on ebay not a company with a rep like Steeda. Gonna put this one down to ya gotta live and learn. |
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Originally Posted by NXGHOST
When ever a spring fits "79-04" I believe it will be a comprimise on some of the years. How can one springs work on so many different body styles/weights?
They can't and in this case they don't. I would have expected this kinda nonsense from a fly by nighter on ebay not a company with a rep like Steeda. Gonna put this one down to ya gotta live and learn. |
Just to clear something up. Steeda.ca is a Canadian Distributor of Steeda Products. They have no influence on design and can only do so much without headquarters co-operation. Don't let you dis-satisfaction of a certain Steeda product reflect upon Steeda.ca
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Originally Posted by ZR 5.0
That makes perfect sense why they felt ok in my Fox body. My problem here is Steeda's flat out denial of there being any problem, no way in hell can they work properly in anyones newer Stang (I'm sure some have been "led to beleive" thats how their car is suppose to ride / drive). It's irritating enough having an issue but when the mfg / vendor won't fess up and make things right all it does is create hard feelings over something that is so cut and dry. The springs are no good.........take em back!!!
The point is...Your unhappy with those springs, and as the customer, they need to resolve the situation. |
Originally Posted by StratGT
Steeda in the US or wherever the hell you bought these has to take them back if you're this unhappy with them. I drove 2002GT with those springs and that car drove and handled great. Call this place and telling them your either exchanging them for a different kit or for replacements.
The point is...Your unhappy with those springs, and as the customer, they need to resolve the situation. |
Originally Posted by ZR 5.0
GREAT IDEA EXCEPT............Steeda.ca won't even return my emails / PM's.
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I understand your frustrations. Why not try going straight to steeda.com? Tell them that your unhappy with the product and that the store you bought them from wont exchange them or refund the money. Be nice and explain it all out. Might be worth a shot. Worst case you get told to pound sand and you get the pro-kit like you planned.
Unless you've tried this and i'll shut up lol |
Originally Posted by Scotts88
I understand your frustrations. Why not try going straight to steeda.com? Tell them that your unhappy with the product and that the store you bought them from wont exchange them or refund the money. Be nice and explain it all out. Might be worth a shot. Worst case you get told to pound sand and you get the pro-kit like you planned.
Unless you've tried this and i'll shut up lol |
[QUOTE=ZR 5.0]UPDATE..............I've flat out given up getting any sort of reasonable response from Steeda, I'll be picking up a Pro Kit tomorrow (will post driving impressions on Fri or Sat) and will be cutting the old springs up / tossin em in the garbage. Had put em up for sale but in good conscience can't bring myself to stick someone else with them.[/QUOTE
Your more bitter about this than i am...........and i started this topic :headscrat |
Naw..............don't need any more stress in my life right now so I'm gonna let it go. Besides, I truly beleive in what goes around comes around.
Good luck with yours Rick |
As I mentioned at the start of this thread, if it were up to me to credit you on your purchase I would...but without the go a head from Steeda Autosports USA there is nothing I can do.
I do know these are the first few complaints I have had about these springs and no complaints from any installs we have done...if we can rally up enough complaints they will have to listen. As far as not returning your e-mail I have personally not gotten any from you...if we missed the e-mail I apologize....next time give ME a buzz or ME a personal message online.... |
Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
As I mentioned at the start of this thread, if it were up to me to credit you on your purchase I would...but without the go a head from Steeda Autosports USA there is nothing I can do.
I do know these are the first few complaints I have had about these springs and no complaints from any installs we have done...if we can rally up enough complaints they will have to listen. As far as not returning your e-mail I have personally not gotten any from you...if we missed the e-mail I apologize....next time give ME a buzz or ME a personal message online.... Since your final reply is that Steeda US is prepared to do nothing, calling me at this point would serve no purpose. |
Id still go to steeda usa directly yourself. Cant hurt.
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Originally Posted by Scotts88
Id still go to steeda usa directly yourself. Cant hurt.
Yup will be doing that today |
UPDATE ON MY CAR...............I got smart today, went out and purchased an Eibach Pro Kit for my ride.
-gone is the harsh front end -gone is the loose / mushy / bottoming out rear end -gone is the loose back end in tigher turns -back is the feeling of a well balanced car -the car rides very very close to stock but of course sits lower -car sits slightly higher on the front and slightly lower on the rear (may settle though). I would rate the Eibach Pro Kit arms and legs above the Steeda springs. In all fairness will again say they did not feel all that bad in my Fox. I've gone nuts for the last two months or so chasing a problem that was the springs all along :banghead: . I also suspect that more folks would complain about theirs if they ever had the chance to ride in the identical car with Eibachs. These look and feel exactly as described. To Steeda for their total lack of concern or action (including the inability to even return a message) in this matter in spite of me never being anything but polite............. :shakeit: :shakeit: :shakeit: I also noticed 567 view hits on this thread, hopefully the words getting out there. Rick |
Originally Posted by ZR 5.0
GREAT IDEA EXCEPT............Steeda.ca won't even return my emails / PM's.
Despite it being true and that it needs to be said, you wouldn't let this fly for a second on GTAMC. |
Funny thing is, Eibach probably makes the springs for Steeda to their specifications. There are only a few companies in North America that wind their own coil springs.
cheers Ed N. |
Originally Posted by 89LXBlack
Oddly funny how you'd say all this on here about them and you wouldn't even wimper a sound over at GTAMC about any sponsor nor would you let anyone else do so.
Despite it being true and that it needs to be said, you wouldn't let this fly for a second on GTAMC. I find zero comfort in being told that no one else has had a problem with them. Clearly some one else has and it was he not me that started this thread. Steeda's own description of the ride is no where close to how at least this set of springs feel. Let's be honest here, every mfg out there has a bad run of this or that, the fact the springs may be part of a bad batch is not the issue here, it's the total lack of after sales support. Yes the powers to be at GTAMC and CMOC have very different views on what is or is not allowed, thats a big part of what makes them both great places to share views and ideas about Mustangs. Anyways, for me it's a closed issue. My cars fixed and although I've now got way too much invested in springs I'll move on and be happy. Damm I like this car. Rick |
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