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Old 05-17-2015, 11:19 PM
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New Mustang owner and not off to a good start!

Hey everyone,
First, I have been on forums before (mazdaspeedfforums.org) and had to find my way. I hope things are different here. The 2013 Mustang I just picked up is totally new to me as I have only had experience tuning a mazdaspeed 3. I had a great time with my previous car with little to no issues ( big turbo e85 and meth tuned ) My first couple days with my new mustang I threw two codes p2196 and p2198 - car still runs fine, pulls hard but damn, car only has 37 000 km on it. Current mods are in sig. I know I can probably search and find similar issues, but I need to get use to this forum and find my way around. Anyone who can give me some insight would be great. I LOVE the car but I am not off to a good start. Previous owner is tuned on 94 octane and it came with the BAMA tuner. I cleared the codes but would like to know what the future holds for this mustang owner. I want to learn so help me out!!
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Old 05-18-2015, 01:02 AM
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is this forum active enough, or should I be suggested a more imformative forum? No offence but I know some places are more active then others
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Old 05-18-2015, 01:17 AM
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The codes you are getting means the fuel mixture is too lean/rich. Mustangs are meant to run on 87 octane normally. They can run on higher octane but it means playing with a tuner to get the proper adjustment. If you stay with 87 octane you will also save money on fuel cost.


http://www.obd-codes.com/p2198

As for the forum it can be active depending how many people are on it at a given time.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:25 AM
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Well, you posted your thread at midnight and then you wonder why you have no responses by 2:00am and ask if the forum is active enough, seriously? There isn't a ton of members here, but it's a good group, if you want answers at 2:00am in the morning, maybe you need the check out some of the US forums, because no way in hell I'm on an internet forum at 2:00am. lol Welcome, and congrats on the new ride, if you don't post pics in the next two hours I'm going someplace else. ha ha ha
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:11 AM
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Actually Ray Spencer mustangs can be run on any fuel, 87 to 94 and will adjust timing accordingly with the factory tune, however tuners will specifically tune for a certain octane. So what the op needs to do is find out what bama tune he is running and use the proper fuel for that tune or a higher octane. It could be you have a some bad fuel in it as well. Do you still have the tuner?
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:17 AM
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The OP never stated what fuel he was running just what the car was tuned for. If he's got anything but 94 in there that's probably the codes. If you don't want to run the 94 you need a different tune or to retard the timing.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by def67
Actually Ray Spencer mustangs can be run on any fuel, 87 to 94 and will adjust timing accordingly with the factory tune, however tuners will specifically tune for a certain octane. So what the op needs to do is find out what bama tune he is running and use the proper fuel for that tune or a higher octane. It could be you have a some bad fuel in it as well. Do you still have the tuner?
Yep I am aware of all this. Just trying to tell the Op that all I have ever run was 87 octane and have never had an issue. The information from Ford when I asked them a few years ago was that the Mustangs 4.0 or 4.6L at set to run at 87 Octane from the Flat Rock Plant. It seems that if you tweak the fuel system in the hopes of better performance or engine operation there can be problems with codes unless the owner has the appropriate tune. I have the tunes from Brenspeed for higher octane but I prefer to leave the octane level at 87.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:15 AM
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Yep I am aware of all this. Just trying to tell the Op that all I have ever run was 87 octane and have never had an issue. The information from Ford when I asked them a few years ago was that the Mustangs 4.0 or 4.6L at set to run at 87 Octane from the Flat Rock Plant. It seems that if you tweak the fuel system in the hopes of better performance or engine operation there can be problems with codes unless the owner has the appropriate tune. I have the tunes from Brenspeed for higher octane but I prefer to leave the octane level at 87.
Yes, I really think the op needs to figure out what tune he currently is running and run the appropriate fuel. Hopefully he has the tuner still.
It's been 6 hours since he's posted here though so he must be dead
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if he lives in Ottawa he could drive over to Pickering and have the issue checked out by DaSilva Racing.

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Old 05-18-2015, 09:57 AM
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Yes, I really think the op needs to figure out what tune he currently is running and run the appropriate fuel. Hopefully he has the tuner still.
It's been 6 hours since he's posted here though so he must be dead
It's tuned for 94. It's a bama 94race tune - I put 94 in and it ran fine even with the cel. I cleared the code (still have the tuner ) and I will see if it comes back
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