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ChadStang 03-23-2013 03:29 PM

Suspension Questions
 
I'm trying to plan out some future suspension mods and am looking for some input from anyone that has some track experience. I've always been interested in drag racing but after a recent vacation I was able to drive a Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo on a road course. I have to say that after that experience I am hooked and I plan on hitting the track with my car and am not really interested in the drag strip anymore. Luckily my car has the Brembo brakes and Boss 302 rad and oil cooler, 3.73 Torsen, Recaro seats, so I've got a pretty good base to start with. My car isn't a daily driver but won't be a race car either so I am looking for a suspension that will be aggressive but not over the top. I am expected a rougher ride I just don't want it to be punishing to drive on the street. I have narrowed my doen to a few options and any input would be appreciated:

Hotchkis Sport Suspension

2005 - 2014 Mustang GT | Handling Performance Packages | HPP003 - Handling Performance Package, Coupe (Level 2) | BMR Suspension - The Leader in High Performance Suspension & Chassis

Steeda 2011-14 Mustang Stage 3 Handling Pack - Made in USA 555-2383

agray56 03-23-2013 06:15 PM

You may also want to consider:

Sport/Comp AGS 4.0 Suspension for 2010-2014 Mustangs | Shop Kenny Brown

I don't have any personal experience, but it is a well respected name.

fast Ed 03-23-2013 07:25 PM

My buddy who tracks his 07 quite a bit, and also uses it for a driver in the summer, has the FRPP springs with Bilsteins. I've driven the car many times on track, it works very well, and is easy to drive quickly. Ride on the street is firm but not punishing by any means.


cheers
Ed

ChadStang 03-23-2013 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by agray56 (Post 187771)
You may also want to consider:

Sport/Comp AGS 4.0 Suspension for 2010-2014 Mustangs | Shop Kenny Brown

I don't have any personal experience, but it is a well respected name.

I hadn't really thought of them, thanks.

ChadStang 03-23-2013 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by agray56 (Post 187771)
You may also want to consider:

Sport/Comp AGS 4.0 Suspension for 2010-2014 Mustangs | Shop Kenny Brown

I don't have any personal experience, but it is a well respected name.


Originally Posted by fast Ed (Post 187772)
My buddy who tracks his 07 quite a bit, and also uses it for a driver in the summer, has the FRPP springs with Bilsteins. I've driven the car many times on track, it works very well, and is easy to drive quickly. Ride on the street is firm but not punishing by any means.


cheers
Ed

I had also looked at the frpp kit with the sway bars. Does he run k or p springs?

fast Ed 03-24-2013 07:35 AM

Pretty sure it is the K springs that he has. Yellow Konis would get the job done for struts & shocks too. Last year he changed out the stab. bars for the FRPP set, and it helped to keep the car a bit flatter. But the 11-up cars have larger bars than 05-10, so you probably save your money and just keep the OEM bars.

He also has the tall Steeda ball joints, and an adjustable panhard bar to centre the rear axle after lowering. This year he is changing that out for a Whiteline Watts link setup from Vorshlag Motorsports, but for occasional fun track use, you could spend your money better elsewhere.


cheers
Ed

ChadStang 03-24-2013 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by fast Ed (Post 187787)
Pretty sure it is the K springs that he has. Yellow Konis would get the job done for struts & shocks too. Last year he changed out the stab. bars for the FRPP set, and it helped to keep the car a bit flatter. But the 11-up cars have larger bars than 05-10, so you probably save your money and just keep the OEM bars.

He also has the tall Steeda ball joints, and an adjustable panhard bar to centre the rear axle after lowering. This year he is changing that out for a Whiteline Watts link setup from Vorshlag Motorsports, but for occasional fun track use, you could spend your money better elsewhere.


cheers
Ed

I already picked up a BMR panhard and my initial plan was to go for k springs and konis but I thought I might see better results with a kit with everything in it. I suppose I can start with springs and struts and work from there. I also need some lower control arms to try to battle the wheel hop and probably some frpp relocation brackets.

fast Ed 03-24-2013 02:00 PM

Yup, sorry forgot to mention that he has the Griggs rear lower arm relocation brackets. Originally had the Griggs lower arms as well, but they transmitted too much drivetrain noise on the street, so he backed up to GT-500 lower arms. Your car may already have those arms with the suspension / brake package option I think.


cheers
Ed

ChadStang 03-24-2013 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by fast Ed (Post 187803)
Yup, sorry forgot to mention that he has the Griggs rear lower arm relocation brackets. Originally had the Griggs lower arms as well, but they transmitted too much drivetrain noise on the street, so he backed up to GT-500 lower arms. Your car may already have those arms with the suspension / brake package option I think.


cheers
Ed

Yeah I have the GT500 lowers from factory. I may try the springs and brackets first and see how the wheel hop is. The reason I am leaning toward frpp brackets is that they are bolt in and supposed to be really solid.

VAEM 03-24-2013 08:41 PM

I picked up a set of Steeda Lower Control Arms ... wheel hop is a thing of the past :tup Have you considered Tokiko D-Spec adjustable shocks - that's what I did. I keep up soft for the street and stiffen them right up for the track. If you can turn a knob you can change the feel of your suspension and they are infinetly adjustable.

ChadStang 03-24-2013 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by VAEM (Post 187823)
I picked up a set of Steeda Lower Control Arms ... wheel hop is a thing of the past :tup Have you considered Tokiko D-Spec adjustable shocks - that's what I did. I keep up soft for the street and stiffen them right up for the track. If you can turn a knob you can change the feel of your suspension and they are infinetly adjustable.

With all of the research I've done most have been using Koni which are adjustable as well but I will check Tokico out too.

DublDee 03-25-2013 11:36 AM

Pretty cool mods for the Stang there Chad. Hey are going to be tracking the car at all, or just running it on the street? Just curious.

ChadStang 03-25-2013 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by DublDee (Post 187848)
Pretty cool mods for the Stang there Chad. Hey are going to be tracking the car at all, or just running it on the street? Just curious.

Yeah I want to hit the road course at least a few times this year time permitting. I wouldn't mind trying autocross too but sometimes I think I could get lost in those cones lol.

agray56 03-26-2013 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by ChadStang (Post 187865)
Yeah I want to hit the road course at least a few times this year time permitting. I wouldn't mind trying autocross too but sometimes I think I could get lost in those cones lol.

All it takes in autocross is seat time! You learn a lot about car control at slower speeds and it is great fun.

ChadStang 03-26-2013 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by agray56 (Post 187870)
All it takes in autocross is seat time! You learn a lot about car control at slower speeds and it is great fun.

I would like to try it for sure but I am not sure if they run any open or testing days as I'd rather do that to start then enter any sort of competition.

agray56 03-26-2013 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by ChadStang (Post 187872)
I would like to try it for sure but I am not sure if they run any open or testing days as I'd rather do that to start then enter any sort of competition.

Check out the affiliated clubs on wcma.ca not sure what might be close but you may have to go to Calgary or Edmonton to participate. Our club tries to have a school each year.

ChadStang 03-26-2013 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by agray56 (Post 187883)
Check out the affiliated clubs on wcma.ca not sure what might be close but you may have to go to Calgary or Edmonton to participate. Our club tries to have a school each year.

Edmonton is the closest for sure but thanks for the link, I'll check it out.


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