Ford Racing SC
12-27-2008, 12:50 AM
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Ok, Im new to forced induction. I found this on the Jegs website and I was wondering if I could make it work on my 02 GT and if its worth it. http://http://www.jegs.com/i/Ford+Ra...-M463/10002/-1
It says is for 96-2000 4.6 with the PI heads. I thought 99-04 was pretty much the same? The price sounds good. Please let me know. Thanks
It says is for 96-2000 4.6 with the PI heads. I thought 99-04 was pretty much the same? The price sounds good. Please let me know. Thanks
12-27-2008, 01:02 AM
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You butchered that URL
fixed: Ford Racing M-6066-M463 - Ford Racing Superchargers - JEGS
fixed: Ford Racing M-6066-M463 - Ford Racing Superchargers - JEGS
12-27-2008, 01:14 AM
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I know their techs will likely tell you if the catalogue hasn't been updated that you shouldn't do the install.
isn't this the same blower on the lightning??
12-27-2008, 01:29 AM
#6
Yea, I am wrong, that is not the same blower as what is on the lightning, atleast an 01 lightning.
Vortech does make a SICK system, click here
However, the vortech and the ford blower are very different. Some pros and cons I found I thought I would share.
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fixed the 2nd details
Vortech does make a SICK system, click here
However, the vortech and the ford blower are very different. Some pros and cons I found I thought I would share.
Centrifugal Type Supercharging
Recommended Usage:
Street Use - Commercial Use - Road Racing - Drag Racing
Positive Points:
1) Lots of Flexibility for Power Adjustments
2) Lower Discharge Temperatures
3) Great Reliability
4) Easy to install
Negative Points:
1) Not as much power at low RPMs as Roots or Screw type superchargers
Manufacturer Availability:
Paxton - Powerdyne - ProCharger - Vortech
Recommended Usage:
Street Use - Commercial Use - Road Racing - Drag Racing
Positive Points:
1) Lots of Flexibility for Power Adjustments
2) Lower Discharge Temperatures
3) Great Reliability
4) Easy to install
Negative Points:
1) Not as much power at low RPMs as Roots or Screw type superchargers
Manufacturer Availability:
Paxton - Powerdyne - ProCharger - Vortech
Screw Type Supercharging
Recommended Usage:
Street Use - Towing - Road Racing - Drag Racing
Positive Points:
1) Great Power at Low RPMs (Great for Towing)
3) Factory Fit & Appearance
4) Great Reliability
Negative Points:
1) The Power Doesn't Keep Climbing in the High RPMs (Power curve is very flat)
2) Challenging To Achieve High Boost Levels or CFMs
3) Lengthy installation times
Manufacturer Availability:
Kenne Belle - Whipple
Recommended Usage:
Street Use - Towing - Road Racing - Drag Racing
Positive Points:
1) Great Power at Low RPMs (Great for Towing)
3) Factory Fit & Appearance
4) Great Reliability
Negative Points:
1) The Power Doesn't Keep Climbing in the High RPMs (Power curve is very flat)
2) Challenging To Achieve High Boost Levels or CFMs
3) Lengthy installation times
Manufacturer Availability:
Kenne Belle - Whipple
Last edited by 2tone; 12-27-2008 at 01:36 AM.
12-27-2008, 12:17 PM
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perhaps I can shed some light on your idea.
There are 3 types of forced induction
#1: centrifugal charger
#2: roots or twin screw
#3: turbo
now with the first 2 types ppl need to understand that to make power you need to use power. ie: these systems run on your motors belt system. For every accessory (alternator, P/S etc...) you are creating parasitic loss or taking power from the motor.
lookin for horsepower? get rid of the smog pump and A/C if your a 5.0 owner.
The roots systems that mounts on top of the motor from what i hear can take as much as 30% of the motors power to run the damn thing. But if low end grunt is what your after then the kenne bell/whipple/TVS system is what your looking for. Power is constant from idle to your top end or it doesn't build boost. It's just always there.
Now the paxton/vortech (sister companies) as well as powerdyne, procharger and some new company from europe I can't remember the name of are people who decided that it's much easier to install a compressor wheel in place of an accessory or even clutter the engine bay more and just find somewhere to mount it with the accessories. These systems are basically the same as a turbo except the belt is driving them and not the exhaust.
Your still using parasitic loss then. However the compressor builds boost as the RPM's go up. Thus if you are keeping the motor under xxxx rpms then your staying outta boost and having decent milage. Paxton/vortech now have a new system that deletes the use of oiling lines and keeps the oil as a self contained unit. These systems are cheaper as I can find a paxton here in vancouver for 3grand.
Turbos... the one way to get crazy power without the use of power. Why? cause exhaust is wasted energy and a turbo uses that energy to spin the compressor housing. This is why when you see dyno graphs on these systems they show results like.
450hp 540tq
Ask anybody who owns a turbo setup that used to have a supercharger and you will hear things like. "my supercharger never pulled like this" or his buddy sayin "damn I need to get one of these!"
The systems are cheap... it's the supporting mods that make going forced induction expensive.
Fuel upgrades
guages to keep an eye on things
plumbing oil lines to stop things from overheating
getting the motor tuned
suspension mods to stop you from going into a ditch... etc.
Whats better? I guess that depends on how much money you have and the power you want to make. For anyone going into forced induction I suggest getting the supporting mods done first and then adding the boost.
not sure if that helps but it's a little bit of what I know.
There are 3 types of forced induction
#1: centrifugal charger
#2: roots or twin screw
#3: turbo
now with the first 2 types ppl need to understand that to make power you need to use power. ie: these systems run on your motors belt system. For every accessory (alternator, P/S etc...) you are creating parasitic loss or taking power from the motor.
lookin for horsepower? get rid of the smog pump and A/C if your a 5.0 owner.
The roots systems that mounts on top of the motor from what i hear can take as much as 30% of the motors power to run the damn thing. But if low end grunt is what your after then the kenne bell/whipple/TVS system is what your looking for. Power is constant from idle to your top end or it doesn't build boost. It's just always there.
Now the paxton/vortech (sister companies) as well as powerdyne, procharger and some new company from europe I can't remember the name of are people who decided that it's much easier to install a compressor wheel in place of an accessory or even clutter the engine bay more and just find somewhere to mount it with the accessories. These systems are basically the same as a turbo except the belt is driving them and not the exhaust.
Your still using parasitic loss then. However the compressor builds boost as the RPM's go up. Thus if you are keeping the motor under xxxx rpms then your staying outta boost and having decent milage. Paxton/vortech now have a new system that deletes the use of oiling lines and keeps the oil as a self contained unit. These systems are cheaper as I can find a paxton here in vancouver for 3grand.
Turbos... the one way to get crazy power without the use of power. Why? cause exhaust is wasted energy and a turbo uses that energy to spin the compressor housing. This is why when you see dyno graphs on these systems they show results like.
450hp 540tq
Ask anybody who owns a turbo setup that used to have a supercharger and you will hear things like. "my supercharger never pulled like this" or his buddy sayin "damn I need to get one of these!"
The systems are cheap... it's the supporting mods that make going forced induction expensive.
Fuel upgrades
guages to keep an eye on things
plumbing oil lines to stop things from overheating
getting the motor tuned
suspension mods to stop you from going into a ditch... etc.
Whats better? I guess that depends on how much money you have and the power you want to make. For anyone going into forced induction I suggest getting the supporting mods done first and then adding the boost.
not sure if that helps but it's a little bit of what I know.
12-27-2008, 04:17 PM
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nope you hit the nail on the head. say it with me ..... T U R B O . lol. supporting mods are a must , alot of guys like their blowers , alot of guys like turbos. i like turbos. ive been in blower cars, had a nitrous car and now turbo. there is no way i would go to nitrous or consider a blower. turbo power is the way to go if your considering a killer street car. the pull when the turbo hits full boost is like being whiped back into your seat and adrenilin pumpin through your veins like fuel. its the best adrenilin rush ever. 
