Graffs

^^ LOL
Im just here to help!

mustang_fr500

Sorry but eclipse is . You want high end but alpine. I never said that high voltage pre outs would blow your speakers. They can over your factory amps that are in the doors though. Distortion will kill speakers before voltage will. The circuitry is on average not designed with high voltage in mind. Yes the factory wire isn't the best but putting in lower gauge wire does not improve sound quality. And the manufacturers have tested their products to provide those rms numbers and they are not bullshit. For example JL audio is notorious for under rating their speakers. On the box is the Max power rating. Max Power is the bullshit number that they use to make it seem like their is more power than there is. And I have also been installing stereos in ALL of mine and my friends cars since the age of 16. My stereo is so loud it will make your ears hurt while sounding great. If you can't make a stereo sound great with a good head unit, aftermarket speakers and a sub and an amp then you don't know . If you think that you need a couple amps and to rewire everything....go ahead but you just spent twice what you needed to.

Graffs

LOL Yeah ok buddy! Eclipse is but Pioneer rules? This is what's wrong with online forums...Any idiot with an opinion steps up to the soap box and spews like a fire hydrant. I feel bad for any other idiots that actually listen to you...

What exactly does that mean? Did you not finish grade school or something?

I never said high voltage POs would blow your speakers either...That was you making the big stink about PO voltage and speakers, remember? scroll up if you need a refresher.
You did re-iterate my point though. Factory amps can get "fucked" and they are not designed with high voltage in mind WHICH IS WHY I RECOMMENDED DOING IT RIGHT, SPENDING A LITTLE MORE AND INSTALLING A REAL AFTERMARKET STEREO (amp, SU, drivers). If you still don't follow, that recommendation would include scrapping the factory amps and therefore eliminating the problem that you keep alluding to. If you'd like I can also post a diagram because Im getting tired of typing the same thing over and over.

Right...So Im going to run 150W from an amp to a driver on factory wire and assume that it will make no difference in sound quality...Tell you what, do a little experiment and run some OEM speaker wire right next to a nice 4ga. power wire from an amp...Turn on the system and tell me how it sounds...Do another experiment if that one doesn't work...Take off some of that cheap insulation on the factory OEM wire and crank it! That weird sound you may hear is your wires picking up engine noise.

Thanks for that lesson but, even the kid that sells the garbage from Best Buy knows that. I guess this goes back to what I said about under-rated power from the SU, right? Ok, if you think that those numbers are written in stone then here's another experiment for you...Just do a bench test on your SU and let me know how many watts it's actually cranking out compared to what it says on the face. Jeez you act like Im trying to convince you and the OP that I'm right. That's not what Im trying to do...Everything Im saying is just common knowledge among anyone who knows this stuff....and has been doing it since 16 lol.

Did I not say in a previous post that he should do an aftermarket amp, HU & drivers and he'd be fine? Thanks for letting me know I was right. Speaking of not knowing ; if you've been doing this stuff since you were 16 then you're probably still 16 because I'd sure as hell know if any of my SUs were bluetooth compatible before I pretended to know it all on the internet.

Get a life loser, all I was saying to the guy was that if he was going to go to the trouble of installing a deck he should just do a whole system and enjoy the better sound quality.

Good luck with the bleeding ears!

mustang_fr500

I think its funny that douche bags like you take all that time to pick apart over someones opinion on the internet. Sorry If I wrote "but" instead of "buy" does a spelling mistake really matter. If your ego needs you to bag on people just so you can keep your chin up than you might need some help. What year mustang do you have??? What do you got installed????? Or do you just talk on what to install but you don't have jack yourself? I have a pioneer head unit and apline sub, speakers and amp. It seems to me like your being the know it all and not me.

Graffs

lol
Don't worry about what I have buddy. I'm not here to compare d**ks with some nimrod.
You can be sure though, that I have more than your basic set up in each of my rides...

Apocalypse Pony

Wow -I missed this little exchange.

Hey SNAKEBITE - where you at with your "bitter attitude" comments now? These two guys are getting into the hurt feelings, bruised egos and name calling already. I gotta start taking "how to" notes!!!

Seriously guys, not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm not a big audiophile anyway, so I don't really pay attention too much to what you're arguing about (with the exception of the chest thumping and name calling)

Gimme the sound of dual exhaust and smoking tires anytime. But, it has been entertaining. Since you're both in Ontario, maybe you need to meet up in person and discuss over a cup of Tim Horton's crappiest - I suspect the outcome might be different. Key statement in the whole exchange was "internet forum". Argue your points, be passionate about your beliefs, but jeez, not worth it to get all huffy. My two cents - please feel free to tell me to f@%* off, but do it nicely -this isn't The Den, and thus is subject to closer scrutiny by the Moderators. (hint hint)

Incidentally, my Shaker500 works pretty good!:biggrin:

MurseMatt

Hey guys thanks for all the info. Didn't mean to start a fecal-throwing fest but anywho...is 2k a reasonable budget for a stereo upgrade with all HU, amp and speakers? I've done some perusing of East Hamilton Radio and they have some great products - those that can vary in pricing bigtime. Any place in particular you guys would recommend for buying the HU, amp and speakers?

menna

Wow, that was entertaining.
As soon as you said that I knew you were from Woodbridge

MurseMatt

LMAO! Awesome.

Graffs

That budget will get you a very reasonable system that you should be happy with. I don't know the Hamilton area so I can't comment on any shops there, but I have heard of EHR and I believe that they do good work. That being said, I hear they can be pricey as they're a big fish in a small pond...

If you ever travel east to Mississauga there are a handful of good shops there too...