Mods for 2.3L
01-13-2009, 02:54 PM
#11
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oh i forgot to mention you could always do the famous DOHC conversion.... take a volvo DOHC head and for the most part it a direct fit of coarse if you do this it needs to be tuned and what not. and it will be a turboed motor meaning you should put new internals in it
here is a turbo kit you can put on ur car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...Q5fAccessories
and here is the volvo head
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B234F...1%7C240%3A1318
know i know you dont have a svo or a ranger but the ranger is a mustang 2.3L right with very little difference so it should be just the same
here is a turbo kit you can put on ur car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...Q5fAccessories
and here is the volvo head
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B234F...1%7C240%3A1318
know i know you dont have a svo or a ranger but the ranger is a mustang 2.3L right with very little difference so it should be just the same
01-13-2009, 03:40 PM
#12
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i found a guy who did the swap and has alot of detailed info heres the link.... sorry not trying to be a post lol
Neil's 1986 Ford Mustang SVO-ND - Part II / Page 1
Neil's 1986 Ford Mustang SVO-ND - Part II / Page 1
02-10-2009, 01:02 AM
#16
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Location: Lidsville, Ontario, Canada
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If you want to just add a turbo to your stock 2.3, it would probably live for a while. The drawback is the 9:1 compression ratio followed by the cast pistons and regular rings. Tune will have to be spot on and there will be very little room for detonation on a non turbo short block. Sunoco 94, about 7* base timing and at minimum a stock intercooler running around 11-12 psi is going to be as good as it gets for pump fuel and no alky. Race gas and alky, you can get braver, the shortblock will let go at some point, probably a piston first. Rods and crank are tough as nails and the same stuff as turbo engines.
You will have to, no ways around it, install a turbo computer preferably from an 87-88 turbo coupe, along with the vane airflow meter and brown top 35 lb injectors.. You will need to add 4 wires into the harness and pin them in where the eec plugs in. it's actually pretty easy.
Join a site like turboford.net and post up a wanted ad for an E6 exhaust manifold, a stock turbo, an oil feed and return. You will have to drill the block or pan to hook the return up and you will need the fitting that screws into the head for the feed. Also you will need a downpipe.
I had an 87 Cougar that had a turbo shortblock with a N/A head which bumped the compression to around 9:1 and for a heavy car it actually rocked out pretty good at 12-13 psi and 94.. I'd be willing to bet if you were careful and used a wideband for tuning it would live for a while and probably make in the 200-220 hp range on low boost like that just doing a good exhaust and cone filter.
Edit - what year is this? If it is a dual plug/DIS/coil pack/Mass air car [91?-93] the wiring swap will be quite a bit more involved and you'll end up moving around 30 pins, and a bunch of underhood wiring has to be changed. I've swapped a 93 over.
You will have to, no ways around it, install a turbo computer preferably from an 87-88 turbo coupe, along with the vane airflow meter and brown top 35 lb injectors.. You will need to add 4 wires into the harness and pin them in where the eec plugs in. it's actually pretty easy.
Join a site like turboford.net and post up a wanted ad for an E6 exhaust manifold, a stock turbo, an oil feed and return. You will have to drill the block or pan to hook the return up and you will need the fitting that screws into the head for the feed. Also you will need a downpipe.
I had an 87 Cougar that had a turbo shortblock with a N/A head which bumped the compression to around 9:1 and for a heavy car it actually rocked out pretty good at 12-13 psi and 94.. I'd be willing to bet if you were careful and used a wideband for tuning it would live for a while and probably make in the 200-220 hp range on low boost like that just doing a good exhaust and cone filter.
Edit - what year is this? If it is a dual plug/DIS/coil pack/Mass air car [91?-93] the wiring swap will be quite a bit more involved and you'll end up moving around 30 pins, and a bunch of underhood wiring has to be changed. I've swapped a 93 over.
02-11-2009, 12:55 PM
#18
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For everyting you would have to do, 7-8 psi not worth it IMO.
Why don't you just install a good fuel 255 pump, cooler plugs, and put a 75 shot on. MM&FFs 4 cylinder test was a joke because they didn't bother to even upgraded the stock 88L/hr pump when they ran it with nitrous. They were more making a mockery out of it. If done properly it would make the power and be easy and cheap. Put a Ranger header, and a 2 1/4" mandrel bent exhaust and a good air inlet...
Why don't you just install a good fuel 255 pump, cooler plugs, and put a 75 shot on. MM&FFs 4 cylinder test was a joke because they didn't bother to even upgraded the stock 88L/hr pump when they ran it with nitrous. They were more making a mockery out of it. If done properly it would make the power and be easy and cheap. Put a Ranger header, and a 2 1/4" mandrel bent exhaust and a good air inlet...
02-12-2009, 05:46 AM
#20
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Quick question, but can make for a very long answer.
How much boost on which 2.3? Turbo or non?
Next, what type of fuel are we talking about? Full on leaded race gas or 94 Sunoco?
Lastly this is assuming you have enough fuel pump/regulator/fuel injector to just 'run how much boost ya want' and always have a nice safe 11.5 - 11.8:1 a/f ratio.
A bone stock turbo short block is right at the edge around 500 flywheel HP because the rod bolts start to stretch. Whether it takes 40 psi of boost on an unported stock head/cam to make that much HP, or 25 psi boost with a 250 cfm high flow head and big cam setup to do it..
A non turbo 2.3? I'd love to see, I don't think anyone has ever taken one, and then did all the necessaries, [fuel system, LOTS of octane] and let it rip. I would be willing to be the would hit the fan in the 300s. High or low I don't know, it would be a piston or ring that would go first. Might even go higher long as air fuel ratio is safe and there is NO detonation.
Boost is just a measurment of restriction at the intake.
How much boost on which 2.3? Turbo or non?
Next, what type of fuel are we talking about? Full on leaded race gas or 94 Sunoco?
Lastly this is assuming you have enough fuel pump/regulator/fuel injector to just 'run how much boost ya want' and always have a nice safe 11.5 - 11.8:1 a/f ratio.
A bone stock turbo short block is right at the edge around 500 flywheel HP because the rod bolts start to stretch. Whether it takes 40 psi of boost on an unported stock head/cam to make that much HP, or 25 psi boost with a 250 cfm high flow head and big cam setup to do it..
A non turbo 2.3? I'd love to see, I don't think anyone has ever taken one, and then did all the necessaries, [fuel system, LOTS of octane] and let it rip. I would be willing to be the would hit the fan in the 300s. High or low I don't know, it would be a piston or ring that would go first. Might even go higher long as air fuel ratio is safe and there is NO detonation.
Boost is just a measurment of restriction at the intake.
