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SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 06:28 AM

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What causes a person to purchase a v6 over a v8. How much of a difference in insurance, price etc :cheers:

91mgt 03-12-2005 06:32 AM

stupidity? j/k
must be insurance or purchase price, i dunno. maybe gas milage.

my95sn95 03-12-2005 08:03 AM

what cause me to do it was
1. collage student
2.poor
3.can make failr nice quick and cheap
4.more support for the v6 then i thought
5.the v6 community isnt bias like some v8 guys
6. if you honetly look at my car its kinda hard to tell its still a 6

gfong 03-12-2005 08:17 AM

I think it is a different demographic altogether. Not all about money. Maybe more about practicallity. Also I see a lot of girls driving V6's. Think it is sorta "User Friendly" Not alot of power but enough for most. Insurance like mentioned above is lower but not cheap, looks, some want the mustang look and do not car about the sound or horsepower or speed.

SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 08:22 AM

clean
 
gfong I think the car would pass inspection. On another note I have nothing against a v6 just curious on savings etc :tup

White97 03-12-2005 10:19 AM

My 87 Sundance blew up and I needed a car to get to school. I found my 94 Mustang, mint condition and low Ks on it for only $4600. Insurance wasn't THAT much more than before, but a V8 would have added on another $2000 a year. That's just friggen insane. I'm still in college so I can't really afford the V8's insurance at the moment. I graduate in a month and when I get a good job that'll be a different story.. Once I can afford a GT or even a Cobra and the insurance, I'm getting one. But in the meantime, I'm going to have some fun with the V6.

This and a few other goodies might help that.
http://www.stang232sc.com/Images/enginenew5.jpg

SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 10:49 AM

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2000.00 more That's insane. Looks like a T-Bird super coupe motor :cheers:

White97 03-12-2005 11:02 AM

V6: $4000 a year
V8: $6000 a year
Cobra: $13,000 a year

Those were the lovely quotes I got. Help, help! I'm being raped. :cry2:

james93stang 03-12-2005 11:17 AM

v8 $5000 a year :nospaz: that's just nutz, when i was 22 i bought my first stang a 88 GT insurance was only $2000 a year with full coverage but that was 8 years ago maybe it's diff now, but i must say atleast you didn't go buy a honda or something else stupid :cheers:

SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 11:47 AM

v-6
 
Good God You may as well bend over and grab your ankles! Those rates are just plain old nuts :banghead: :cry2:

89stangman 03-12-2005 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by gfong
Think it is sorta "User Friendly" Not alot of power but enough for most.

you might have to change your thinking about "not a lot of power" after next week's V6 Ford Challenge in Alabama. A twin turbo single port V6 just dynoed at 479rwhp & 532rwtq, anther TT V6 got 399rwhp & 435rwtq on a stock bottom end. He ran an 11.5@120mph...probably get faster next week with more tuning. Super Six Motorsports is running 10.85 with a 90 shot.

White97 03-12-2005 05:44 PM

Mine ran a 16.9 when I first got it, completely stock. Now I've been having a huge bogging issue and ran a best of 17.6 when I went to the track, although it was pretty damn hot out. I think there's something wrong with my transmission, since when I was launching it would barely get moving. I hit 89mph by the end of the 1/4 though.. which was about the same as people in the low 16s.

Oh well, the new engine, transmission and rear end should fix all that. I already have the 8.8" posi rear end with 3.55 gears in it ready to install on Monday once I pick up some fluid. That should get me back in the 16s over my 2.73 gears.

SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 06:42 PM

v6
 
Hey Flynnt if you installed a v8 instead of a v6 would your insurance company find out. Have other people done this? :cheers:

White97 03-12-2005 06:48 PM

If they ever called me in to get it checked or if I got in an accident they would. They took a picture of my engine bay when I got it insured. I guess it's how they handle an 18 year old(at the time) male with an extremely high powered V6 Mustang. :deal:

Once I can afford the insurance, if I don't outright buy a GT or Cobra, I have a 5.0 and a 4.6 DOHC available to me if I want to buy it off my brother. He's planning on making his 4.6 DOHC into a 5.0 stroker and pulling his other one out, so I would get that one if I had the funds. The 5.0 would pretty much be given to me since it needs a rebuild.. 380,000 KMs on it.

SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 07:32 PM

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So did you do a double take when asked to open your hood :banghead: That's bizarre.

White97 03-12-2005 07:46 PM

They told me that they would have to see my car before the policy was fully activated. The thing is, it's under my parent's so it's cheaper for me right now but any screw ups could result in their policy being cancelled. It's Allstate btw. Once I have it on my own, they'll be the last people I call, if ever.

SNAKEBITE 03-12-2005 10:31 PM

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So much for trust :laughhard. My insurance is not to bad but you younger guys sure take it on the chin :cry2: . Don't worry in 20 years you will be old wishing you were again young. :laughhard

91mgt 03-12-2005 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Flynnt
V6: $4000 a year
V8: $6000 a year
Cobra: $13,000 a year

Those were the lovely quotes I got. Help, help! I'm being raped. :cry2:



OMG No LUBE EITHER. Youch!

For that price, it would be cheaper to by a V6 model and put a V8 init and not tell them.

V6Sprout 03-13-2005 12:19 AM

I love the V8 nothing beats the sound of a V8. But I choose the V6 cause its a challenge, nothign against the V8 but there are sooooooo many parts out there to choose from the hardest part is decidiing which ones to get. For the V6 there are no aftermarket parts, just a few bolt on mods and a couple blower packages. No aftermarket heads, just reground cams, no aftermarket cranks, we use V8 forged rods.

When a V6 goes 13's its pretty impressinve right? BUt a V8 that does 13's is normal, heck the new GT's can almost run that STOCK. 13's in a 94 stang is shaving 4 seconds off the stock times, 4 sec of a stock 5.0' woudl be 11's which then would be impressive. So its all about perspective ont he 1/4 mile times.

BUt like I said its a challenge with limited aftermarket parts, we have guys fabbing up thier own intakes and custom turbo setups cause thats how they have to do it, we port the stock heads and enlarge the valves cause thats all we can do, so mich less to work on and takes more work. I love it. :tup

BUt sadly never will be get the cool sound of the 5.0L :cry2: :banghead:

White97 03-13-2005 12:35 AM

And nothing beats the look on people's faces when you tell them that you have a V6 after you smoked them ;)

For my install I'm basically down to installing the rear end (Monday), welding up and installing the exhaust (hopefully this week), installing the fuel pump (Monday, I hope), installing the cam once I get it, popping the engine in and getting a tune for the chip. Not too much now that I think of it, only object is money and having my car on the road after this week (March Break) and until April 13th when I graduate. After that once I have the cash, I'll definately have the time.

I must get revenge for the embarassment I suffered at the Test & Tune at St. Thomas during the JCO Bash last summer. I hate showing this video but here it is :(

http://www.stang232sc.com/slowstang.wmv

:cry2: :banghead:

SNAKEBITE 03-13-2005 07:06 AM

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I guess you fixed the tranny. Is it an automatic? If so do you lauch in first gear/second then drive or is this not done? This year you can wail on the challengers. :tup

james93stang 03-13-2005 07:07 AM

now that's why most choose a v8 :cheers:

SNAKEBITE 03-13-2005 07:14 AM

v6
 
I drive like an old man, wait I am old, but I love the sound of the flowmasters and for me the power is adequate. :laughhard

91mgt 03-13-2005 09:19 AM

"is that seriously floored? that thing is slow."
hahhaha

KB007 03-13-2005 09:26 AM

For me it was the choice of a V6 convertible or a GT coupe for about the same price. Since I've had 3 other Mustangs (76 302, 66 inline 6 and 86 5L) and an RX-7 Turbo, none of which were verts, I wanted a convertible. A GT Vert was still quite a bit more expensive by a few thousand.

I totally agree with Sprout, that the V6 performance thing is more like a hobby of it's own, there's not much in the way of performance parts that are made new for the V6, so you spend quite a bit of time doing research, finding parts / suppliers etc - that's half the fun, I think.

My goal is 400 rwhp, which I think is doable. Once I get there, I'll be very happy, drop the top and cruise around on weekends in the summer. :)

gfong 03-13-2005 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by 89stangman
you might have to change your thinking about "not a lot of power" after next week's V6 Ford Challenge in Alabama. A twin turbo single port V6 just dynoed at 479rwhp & 532rwtq, anther TT V6 got 399rwhp & 435rwtq on a stock bottom end. He ran an 11.5@120mph...probably get faster next week with more tuning. Super Six Motorsports is running 10.85 with a 90 shot.

Come on now.... lets compare apples to apples. I am talking about stock. Hey, I knew a 1000hp Ford Pinto back in the day...lol Peace.

You guys can shat on me if you like but come on, you picked a v6 over a v8 because it was a challenge and parts are hard to find! If that statement don't take the cake. And also it is better if a v6 does 13's than a v8 that does 13's. Shake my head. :banghead:

If you had went the v8 and put what you put into a v6 than you would have had a 10 sec v8. come on guys. You bought the v6 for what ever reason but it was not for performance. Face it, they are not powerful. Not even for a present day v6. come to think of it GM is putting out 400 hp out of their v8 and we are 300 out of ford v8. so the v8 is low even to this day.

I almost bought a v6 rag top but changed my mind at the last min and bought the mach1. I also was debating rag or coupe gt. I knew fast was gt and slower was rag top. Than I switched to gt rag top and thought I can have the best of both world's. I than saw the more powerful Mach and got it.

Now for me to say Oh yea I bought the mach so that I could spend goobs of money to keep up with Cobra's. What ever, Cobras are faster than Machs and that is that. Yea I can spend money but so can they and I will never catch up.

Like the car you got and hey if a v6 beats me fine, but he or she is not gonna beat me on a level playing field. It's funny at the drags when a v6 or a older v8 runs with you and they come up and say I only spent 3000 on parts and I got you. Good for you, if I spent 3000 it would not have even been close.

Peace. :tup

SNAKEBITE 03-13-2005 09:52 AM

v6
 
Kaboom :laughhard

V6Sprout 03-13-2005 10:20 AM

gfong read my post again before you go on a ridiculous rant like that. I didn't say that a 13 sec V6 is BETTER then a 13 sec V8, just more impressive, cause of the fact that GT's can run 13's very easily, a V6 can't.


Second get off this "If you had spent that much on a V8 you could be that much faster" crap, on a USED car yes but when you go buy a new mustang the GT is $5 grand+ more then a V6, I can slap on a Procharger and keep up with your GT and still have spent LESS. When you are referring to buying an old used Fox 5.0L sure its cheaper to go the 5.0L route, agreed.


Don't tell me why i bought my V6 I know why, you don't. I used to own an 88 5.0L notchback. I do'nt work on my V6 to keep up with GT's or Cobra's I do it cause I like to, its a challenge and something not many others do, its different. Is there a problem with that? Or are you just jealous cause there are V6's running faster then you? :cry2: :laughhard :chacha:

Beat you on a level playing field? Name two modifed cars that are identical and then we will talk about a level playing field. Even driver weights can change the outcome of a race so there will NEVER be a level playing field, thats the joy of drag raings its bring what ya brung racing.

In the long run a V8 will ALWAYS outrun a V6 when it comes to who has the most money to spend, you can always spend more ont he V8 to get it to go faster, "No replacement for Displancement" is very true, but that doesn't mean V6's can't compete. Go to Performacne world and check out the 1186 RWHP Twin Turbo V6 Grand National, tell me thats not impressive? Heck more impressive then a V8 that runs 8? Dmn straight it is. :tup

I don't see anyone raggin on V8 guys for comparing yourselves to Vipers, everyone is always impressed when a Cobra outruns a viper or something, thats not fair though is it? After all the viper has 2 more cylinder then Mustangs GT's and Cobra's.

You like your V8 thats cool, so do I, I love the V8, the sound the power, its awesome, but I also love the V6 and the challenge it imposes. SO live with it. :biggrin:

White97 03-13-2005 11:00 AM

Yeah it's an automatic, was all I could find :( I'm not sure if I fixed the problem or not since I haven't been back to the track and haven't launched it like that. I tried all sorts of different things and when I braketorqued it stuff started making funny noises when I let off the brake and I barely had any power for a few seconds. I know it's capable of more if I had a better transmission. But in the video it's basically stock except for the 17" wheels.

So far on my project, I've spent less than $2000 including engine, rear end, supercharger pulley, chip, tires, engine rebuild kit, cam and raised supercharger top. So that's $6600 including the car. Not like I'm dropping an insane ammount of cash into it and I'll still be getting some good times once all is said and done.

In the end, it's something different than all the rest. I don't want to be the exact same as the next guy. I don't know of a single doneup 3.8 Mustang in the Windsor area and I wouldn't mind being the first with a good contender at the track days.

V6Sprout 03-13-2005 11:05 AM

All about being differnt, I like that, just like the guy putting a 5.0L in a Miata over on GTAMC.com, I hate the MIata's but think the swap is cool cause its different, its getting to be popular but still not a lot of them out there, at least around here. So I think its cool, I liek anything thats different, show's uniquness (sp?) :tup

Flynnt, if you need any help with your conversion let me know, I also have the Supercoupe motor in my stang.

SNAKEBITE 03-13-2005 11:43 AM

v6
 
Sounds like many mods for a reasonable price :tup

gfong 03-13-2005 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by V6Sprout
gfong read my post again before you go on a ridiculous rant like that. I didn't say that a 13 sec V6 is BETTER then a 13 sec V8, just more impressive, cause of the fact that GT's can run 13's very easily, a V6 can't.


Second get off this "If you had spent that much on a V8 you could be that much faster" crap, on a USED car yes but when you go buy a new mustang the GT is $5 grand+ more then a V6, I can slap on a Procharger and keep up with your GT and still have spent LESS. When you are referring to buying an old used Fox 5.0L sure its cheaper to go the 5.0L route, agreed.


Don't tell me why i bought my V6 I know why, you don't. I used to own an 88 5.0L notchback. I do'nt work on my V6 to keep up with GT's or Cobra's I do it cause I like to, its a challenge and something not many others do, its different. Is there a problem with that? Or are you just jealous cause there are V6's running faster then you? :cry2: :laughhard :chacha:

Beat you on a level playing field? Name two modifed cars that are identical and then we will talk about a level playing field. Even driver weights can change the outcome of a race so there will NEVER be a level playing field, thats the joy of drag raings its bring what ya brung racing.

In the long run a V8 will ALWAYS outrun a V6 when it comes to who has the most money to spend, you can always spend more ont he V8 to get it to go faster, "No replacement for Displancement" is very true, but that doesn't mean V6's can't compete. Go to Performacne world and check out the 1186 RWHP Twin Turbo V6 Grand National, tell me thats not impressive? Heck more impressive then a V8 that runs 8? Dmn straight it is. :tup

I don't see anyone raggin on V8 guys for comparing yourselves to Vipers, everyone is always impressed when a Cobra outruns a viper or something, thats not fair though is it? After all the viper has 2 more cylinder then Mustangs GT's and Cobra's.

You like your V8 thats cool, so do I, I love the V8, the sound the power, its awesome, but I also love the V6 and the challenge it imposes. SO live with it. :biggrin:

I re-read your post and yes I may have been a little jumpy. Now after reading your reply, these are my thoughts.

Your opinion and you and your car for that matter does not mean anything to me. I do not get on here to put people down or to argue. I did not tell you what or what you could or could not do with your car.

I agree V6's are nice and all.

Please do not tell me to do anything like "Get off this" or "live with it" or whatever sarcastic remark you have. I will not argue and get kicked off here over this or anyones comments. Thank you. Have a great day bud.

V6Sprout 03-13-2005 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by gfong
. You bought the v6 for what ever reason but it was not for performance. Face it, they are not powerful.


You told me right there why I bought my V6, plus you were saying how I could spend just as much on a GT and be fater, all V8 guys say that, but you forget you spend more on the V8 to start with so really you still have spent more without modding it at all.

O am not trying to make enemies here, sorry if I came off that way, I just hate it when people DIS the V6 and say they suck, ( I know you didn't use those exact words) but thats the way you came off.

Its all cool, we all mod are cars for the same reason and thats what counts. :tup :cheers:

White97 03-13-2005 01:04 PM

I bought mine because it was what I could afford and it was better than a Honda, Neon, Cavalier, etc. Even if it wasn't as fast, I would pick it any day over those cars. Yes, it takes more work to make them fast, but if you can find good deals and are able to do some custom work, you can get it going quick for cheap. I sure as hell know I wouldn't be able to find an ENTIRE CAR with a supercharged V8 like I did find my supercharged V6 for $500. Sold over $1000 worth of parts off the car and bingo, great deal.

gfong 03-13-2005 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by V6Sprout
You told me right there why I bought my V6, plus you were saying how I could spend just as much on a GT and be fater, all V8 guys say that, but you forget you spend more on the V8 to start with so really you still have spent more without modding it at all.

O am not trying to make enemies here, sorry if I came off that way, I just hate it when people DIS the V6 and say they suck, ( I know you didn't use those exact words) but thats the way you came off.

Its all cool, we all mod are cars for the same reason and thats what counts. :tup :cheers:

I agree with the enemies, I don't want any on here. I also agree on the V6 mods and the less money.

Have a good day and thank you for the reply. I am sure if I saw you with your car I would go WOW , nice job. Peace.

SNAKEBITE 03-13-2005 01:31 PM

v6
 
Hey feelas easy. Hey Flynnt I want you to laugh when you read this. I do not know why but instead of a Focus for a second car we purchased a 03 z-24. Now that is not the funny part this is. You just put down my second car. I am a 240lb ex-infantry man and a weight-lifter. WHY I OUGHTA :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard :laughhard . I think Rodney King said Can"t we all just get along. Peace

White97 03-13-2005 02:15 PM

My friends all wanted me to buy a Cavalier. No thanks! Another factor with that is it's FWD and I don't think I can stand to drive FWD ever again. It's just not as fun! :chacha:

The Mustang just compliments the rest of the cars we own.

1986 Lincoln Mark VII (no engine, going to the junkers)
1987 Thunderbird Turbocoupe (mine & my brother's)
1988 Lincoln Mark VII LSC (brother's project)
1990 Thunderbird Supercoupe (mine.. what's left of it..)
1993 Lincoln Mark VIII (brother's)
1994 Lincoln Mark VIII (dad's)
1994 Mustang V6 (mine)
1997 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC (brother's)

SNAKEBITE 03-13-2005 04:22 PM

v6
 
Love the mark 8. At 240 lbs and 6 ft tall believe me I do not fit in the z-24 very comfortably. In 10 days we are driving to Calgary -should be fun NOT. It is a nice car for her though. :tup

lex 03-28-2005 09:03 PM

Why a V6. Well mainly its the money issue. I don't have alot, with a divorce under mybelt, and loans . I drove my 90 LX stang into the railing outbound on 102 from bayers rd (halifax) and my fiancee said she rather see me driver a newer car (my 90LX calipers locked up causing the 360 on snow roads) and of course I wanted a MUSTANG, so off to steele ford to see what they had .
And I fell in love with my now 99 Silver V6. When you go from a 88HP Auto to a 193 HP Standard, you feel like you jumped in a GT. I think its got great miliage, its fun cause its a standard, not to many people know its not V8 nor care, it always gets looks, I can peel rubber if i want with it, its ready for mods, and has AC and Cruise.

MUSTANG GUY 03-29-2005 03:52 AM

I remember my 99 V6, it was a really good car

about $80 a month cheaper on insurance only tho and it didnt burn any less gas then my 02 GT

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...17_15_full.jpg

heres my V6 cardomain I had if anyone wants to check it out www.cardomain.com/id/mustangguy99

You might see it driving around in Burlington now, a guy my age bought it from the Ford dealership I traded it into.


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