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gfong 07-26-2005 08:30 PM

Mach 1 vs Cobra: Battle of Baddest Mustangs *Article*
 
http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featur...obra_mustangs/


Mach 1 vs Cobra: Battle of Baddest Mustangs
The Similarities End With the Four-Valve 4.6

It is an older article, but a good read. Really states what todays Mustangs offer compared to yesteryear.

I am bias towards the Mach. :) lol :tup

5PointOHNO 07-26-2005 08:52 PM

I want an 03 Cobra so badly....

one day it will happen

1low03gt 07-26-2005 09:11 PM

Good article.Muscle Mustangs had a good one last year with all three,the '04 Cobra,'04 Mach 1,which both were stick,and the '04 Special Edition Crimson Red GT,but in a auto :bleh: ,it should've been a stick along with the other two :banghead: .But still a good article. :)

machrmk 07-26-2005 10:11 PM

Good find gfong. I also have a bias for the Mach. Have you seen this article on the best of the NA 4.6's? Mach 1 vs Bullitt vs 99 Cobra.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...ach/index.html

gfong 07-27-2005 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by machrmk
Good find gfong. I also have a bias for the Mach. Have you seen this article on the best of the NA 4.6's? Mach 1 vs Bullitt vs 99 Cobra.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...ach/index.html

Thanks for the link, I will check that story out for sure.
Thanks again. :cheers:

Darkhorse 07-27-2005 07:05 AM

I knew those Bullitts were no slouch. I agree with 5 point, 03-04 Terminator Cobra is a MUST HAVE.

anarchist 07-27-2005 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by 1LOW03GT
Good article.Muscle Mustangs had a good one last year with all three,the '04 Cobra,'04 Mach 1,which both were stick,and the '04 Special Edition Crimson Red GT,but in a auto :bleh: ,it should've been a stick along with the other two :banghead: .But still a good article. :)

FYI, Cobra ONLY come manual.

Stang Seller 07-27-2005 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by anarchist
FYI, Cobra ONLY come manual.

Read it again

Originally Posted by 1LOW03GT
the '04 Cobra,'04 Mach 1,which both were stick,and the '04 Special Edition Crimson Red GT,but in a auto :bleh: ,it should've been a stick along with the other two

He never said the Cobra was automatic. :cheers:
SS

5PointOHNO 07-27-2005 06:29 PM

^maybe he was referring to the fact that there is no need to point out the Cobra is stick.

P.Meister 07-27-2005 08:08 PM

The 03/04 Cobra's will be the best of the Cobra's.....

Even though the new "Shelby" will make more power and have a bigger motor it will be a PIG and probally run the same times as a 03.

It took me a while, but I learned dyno numbers mean $hit :confused: and weight is VERY VERY important, as well as getting the power to the ground

Prime Example --> my 03 cobra that ran a 12.0 @ 124 with 550rwhp. It now weighs about 350+ less than factory and has a solid axle with drag suspension....this will probally shave close to 1sec off my time

5PointOHNO 07-27-2005 08:22 PM

The kid can tune....


But can he drive....


.... Coming to a dragstrip near you ....

P.Meister 07-27-2005 08:33 PM

I am not that bad actually...but practice makes perfect

BlueGT 07-27-2005 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
I am not that bad actually...but practice makes perfect

I hope you don't drive as bad as Pat plays golf. :LOL:

Bring it on Patty :deal:

5PointOHNO 07-27-2005 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
I am not that bad actually...but practice makes perfect

agreed, I think the only problem you had before was the IRS...

things should change now. Do you have any "other" weight out of the car?

P.Meister 07-27-2005 10:23 PM

Rear Seats Out: 50-70lbs
IRS Out: 100lbs (rough estimate)
Stock Hood Off: 10lb or more

I guess that is it, so I have taken out 150-200lbs probally....

In race trim, I will have mugh lighter wheels and tires (which is rotatinal mass, so it counts for more).....my street wheel/tire setup in total is about 50lbs lighter than stock

I want to take the AC out as well. I want my car down to around 3350-3400lbs. Next year I will do K-Member, A-Arms, etc

P.Meister 07-27-2005 11:13 PM

If you want to get really technical:

Removed front swaybar (which includes endlinks and some bolts, HA HAHA. Swaybar is probally around 10lbs too

5PointOHNO 07-28-2005 06:02 PM

yeah dropping the front swaybar is essential... I wouldn't take out the A/C though, that keeps the car more streetable. Not to mention with this weather, it's needed.

The K-member will save you HUGE amounts of weight.

1low03gt 07-28-2005 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Stang Seller
Read it again

He never said the Cobra was automatic. :cheers:
SS

Thanks SS . :tup

I was talking about the GT being an auto.Wasn't a fare shot for the GT.I know it doesn't compare to it's bigger brothers,but could have been more fare it it were a stick aswell,instead of the STOCK FACTORY slowmatic. :cheers:
And believe me,i'm not stang illiterate. :)

P.Meister 07-28-2005 09:34 PM

The Stock Auto with some tuning KICKS BUTT

I will be putting a 4R70W in my car next year I think :chacha:

We have a 00GT with a Novi 2000, Water Meth and Drag Suspension running 11.7's with the stock auto by putting the car in D and mashing the gas....shifts like a top

slow5.0 07-29-2005 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
The Stock Auto with some tuning KICKS BUTT

I will be putting a 4R70W in my car next year I think :chacha:


Do you think that will help you with your "shifting". I bet you will still miss 3rd :laughhard J/K


Sorry I had to.

Ryan

P.Meister 07-29-2005 10:23 AM

Pull Beside :cheers:

T56's are KNOWN for not going into 3rd or 4th under full boost

Scotts88 07-29-2005 02:44 PM

how does the tranny know its under boost? maybe doesnt go into gear under throttle?

P.Meister 07-29-2005 03:08 PM

The tranny does not necessarily know it is under boost.....nor does it really know the proper throttle position...I am just making a comment that these are the conditions when it happens

7 of 10 cobra owners have expressed their concerns about this problem.

Drop the boost, or close the throttle a crack (whichever you chose to call it) and the problem is not as frequent.

slow5.0 07-29-2005 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
Pull Beside :cheers:

T56's are KNOWN for not going into 3rd or 4th under full boost

I won't race you until after you tune my car, I want you to make MORE power not take power away so you can keep up :shakeit: :biggrin:

Ryan

Scotts88 07-29-2005 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
The tranny does not necessarily know it is under boost.....nor does it really know the proper throttle position...I am just making a comment that these are the conditions when it happens

7 of 10 cobra owners have expressed their concerns about this problem.

Drop the boost, or close the throttle a crack (whichever you chose to call it) and the problem is not as frequent.

yeah then id say its just a problem with shifting under power.


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