spark plug debate
11-11-2011, 01:03 AM
#11
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To Snakebit - The dealer is Ken Knapp in Essex. I am not exactly sure about the hourly rate but I expect it to be around the $110 like you said.
To Herbz - when I first went in they said that they had not had a problem with any mustang and couldn't understand why I would want to put champion plugs in. They did say they have had lots of problems with the 5.4 trucks. When they called back they said there were at least two that were being difficult so they wanted it to soak.
They said the standard rate should apply unless they break off but they were confident they would get them out with taking the heads off.
I am keeping my fingers crossed. It ran great going in - lets hope it comes out the same way.
To Herbz - when I first went in they said that they had not had a problem with any mustang and couldn't understand why I would want to put champion plugs in. They did say they have had lots of problems with the 5.4 trucks. When they called back they said there were at least two that were being difficult so they wanted it to soak.
They said the standard rate should apply unless they break off but they were confident they would get them out with taking the heads off.
I am keeping my fingers crossed. It ran great going in - lets hope it comes out the same way.
I pass old Ken every time we go to my sisters home in Cottam after visiting/doing business in Windsor. It seems like a bit of a smaller dealer but I bet customer service is better than normal. Well maybe not lol
11-11-2011, 09:48 AM
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My plugs were just changed from the factory n/a plugs to the HTO plugs due to s/c installation. I only had 16,000 kms on them and figured they would come out ok, and they did luckily. Make sure they put anti seize from the threads and down the complete shaft of the plug. This stops the carbon from building up on the plug. And remove them once a year to clean and reapply the anti seize and your good to go.
11-16-2011, 03:58 PM
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Champion plugs are great........if you're putting them in a lawnmower! I'm not a mechanic, but any mechanic I have talked to, said stay away from Champion plugs, in fact the repair shop I use regularly in Lloyd, refuses to install Champion plugs, even if the customer supplies them, and requests to have them installed. They will give the customer a name of another shop that will do it, but they won't!
11-16-2011, 06:18 PM
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Champion plugs are great........if you're putting them in a lawnmower! I'm not a mechanic, but any mechanic I have talked to, said stay away from Champion plugs, in fact the repair shop I use regularly in Lloyd, refuses to install Champion plugs, even if the customer supplies them, and requests to have them installed. They will give the customer a name of another shop that will do it, but they won't!
Along came champion and addressed this problem, they designed a 1 piece plug for the 3v head. A set of Champion 7989 is a smart replacement in this engine. More force can be applied to the one piece design and as far as I know no problems have been posted with the champion. If you do a google search most people that own 05-06 that are worried about the 2 piece plug horror story recommend the champions. If you go with another plug in the 05-06 you better have the extraction tool.
11-16-2011, 06:30 PM
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I would agree to a certain point, but in this case (with the 2005-2006) Ford decided that a 2 piece plug would benefit the design of the 3v head, numerous posts have been made that this plug breaks in the head with very little torque applied in removing them google
Along came champion and addressed this problem, they designed a 1 piece plug for the 3v head. A set of Champion 7989 is a smart replacement in this engine. More force can be applied to the one piece design and as far as I know no problems have been posted with the champion. If you do a google search most people that own 05-06 that are worried about the 2 piece plug horror story recommend the champions. If you go with another plug in the 05-06 you better have the extraction tool.
Along came champion and addressed this problem, they designed a 1 piece plug for the 3v head. A set of Champion 7989 is a smart replacement in this engine. More force can be applied to the one piece design and as far as I know no problems have been posted with the champion. If you do a google search most people that own 05-06 that are worried about the 2 piece plug horror story recommend the champions. If you go with another plug in the 05-06 you better have the extraction tool.
11-16-2011, 06:34 PM
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