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Stang Illusions 5.0L 07-05-2007 06:38 PM

T-5 Borg Warner "Problems".....
 
Ok guys my car has been having some wicked vibrations I cant even go over 110km/h??? It gets so bad I cant even hang onto the shifter it was/is that bad!!

I put the car on the hoist today and did a oil change.
So I thought hum since I have it up in the air WTF is up with this vibration BS! I thought it was the driveshaft so I was grabbing ahold of it and twisting it and all the other stuff you would normally do to try and find a problem...

Once I grabbed onto the driveshaft near the Tail stock of the transmission it was flopping around....

Is there a bearing or a shim near the end that is pouched? is it hard to replace?
Thanks fellow members for the help

Keith.

tear u a new 1 07-10-2007 11:46 AM

i too would like to find out about this. when i get hard on her it sounds like a vibration coming through the stick. same as you but it seems only when i get on it.

Stang Illusions 5.0L 07-10-2007 02:48 PM

Mine was like this, but then it has gotton so much worse.

White_Snake 07-10-2007 03:54 PM

i would wait till you have your new gears and new driveshaft in.

you also said your dogbone is gone, don't know if that would affect anything.

Stang Illusions 5.0L 07-11-2007 12:18 AM

Dogbone? you mean that useless weight on the rearend? that is just a dampner "Dead weight"
I am just trying to figure this out so when I do rip the car appart I have an idea on what is going on.
But since there is no help on the board im just gonna bring it to a friend and have a look at it.

Captin Spalding 07-11-2007 01:16 PM

there is a bushing in the tail stock of the trans if this is the problem you will need to remove the trans to replace it it is pressed in to the case and you will need to press it out from the inside out this will require you to dissmantel the trans at least the rear housing anyway

Stang Illusions 5.0L 07-11-2007 01:19 PM

I was just on my way to the tranny shop to get some prices!

Thanks for the imput.

White_Snake 07-11-2007 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Stang Illusions 5.0L (Post 83587)
Dogbone? you mean that useless weight on the rearend? that is just a dampner "Dead weight"
I am just trying to figure this out so when I do rip the car appart I have an idea on what is going on.
But since there is no help on the board im just gonna bring it to a friend and have a look at it.

What i was getting at is, seeing you want to get the gears done before you do the motor, is you might as well do the driveshaft at the same time. see if the fixes the problem, so you are possibly not wasting money on something that does not need to be fixed.

Stang Illusions 5.0L 07-12-2007 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by White_Snake (Post 83628)
What i was getting at is, seeing you want to get the gears done before you do the motor, is you might as well do the driveshaft at the same time. see if the fixes the problem, so you are possibly not wasting money on something that does not need to be fixed.

Well when it was on the hoist the other day you could grad the DS and move i around, the tranny shop said its common if the ujoints are siezed.....OR somethin is giving off to much vibrations.

I went the the Tranny shop and they said its about a $20 part and if I bring the tranny to them it'll cost about $30.00 for them to put it in.

I guess they make a special puller for Chev and Dodge so you can do it with the tranny in he car, but apartently Ford doesnt have one!!!

White_Snake 07-12-2007 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Stang Illusions 5.0L (Post 83652)
Well when it was on the hoist the other day you could grad the DS and move i around, the tranny shop said its common if the ujoints are siezed.....OR somethin is giving off to much vibrations.

I went the the Tranny shop and they said its about a $20 part and if I bring the tranny to them it'll cost about $30.00 for them to put it in.

I guess they make a special puller for Chev and Dodge so you can do it with the tranny in he car, but apartently Ford doesnt have one!!!

Well for that price, go for it.thumb:

OVERKILL 01-27-2008 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Stang Illusions 5.0L (Post 83652)
Well when it was on the hoist the other day you could grad the DS and move i around, the tranny shop said its common if the ujoints are siezed.....OR somethin is giving off to much vibrations.

I went the the Tranny shop and they said its about a $20 part and if I bring the tranny to them it'll cost about $30.00 for them to put it in.

I guess they make a special puller for Chev and Dodge so you can do it with the tranny in he car, but apartently Ford doesnt have one!!!

That doesn't make sense, the T5 is also used in the Camaro and S10, it's not a "Ford Specific" transmission.

I would check for excessive wear on the yoke. I've twisted one, and grenaded another, but it could be the yoke OR the "sleeve bushing" that is inside the tail stock that is supposed to keep the slack out of the front yoke that is worn. The bushing just looks like a big brass sleeve inside the tailstock and runs for about 4" around the output shaft to keep things "tight", I can't see it being very difficult to replace.

Stang Illusions 5.0L 01-27-2008 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by OVERKILL (Post 90367)
That doesn't make sense, the T5 is also used in the Camaro and S10, it's not a "Ford Specific" transmission.

I would check for excessive wear on the yoke. I've twisted one, and grenaded another, but it could be the yoke OR the "sleeve bushing" that is inside the tail stock that is supposed to keep the slack out of the front yoke that is worn. The bushing just looks like a big brass sleeve inside the tailstock and runs for about 4" around the output shaft to keep things "tight", I can't see it being very difficult to replace.

The reason I said in the the quoted post "U-joints seizing up" would cause vibrations to wear out the tail stock bushing because of the slake/play in the DS.
Yes the tranny shop was quite aware of the tranny being the same as the camaro/S10 T5 my guess is the tool wouldn't fit in the mustang....cause when I brought the tail stock to him he had the collet and seal replaced in under 2 minutes. So my guess is that he had replaced then before.

See lets go beck to the vibrations part....
He thought that since I had vibrations, he automatically assumed it was U-joints...witch he was damn near right on. When I first got the car it had SERIOUS ISSUES....I bought it from Toronto and it was hacked/cobbled together badly, the only thing that was damn near perfect was the interior and still is.
So anyways I decided why not change the u-joint....I'm sure the ones that are in it had a hard life boy oh boy was I ever wrong!
The only thing that had a hard life was the ends that attach to the DS output shaft/flange. Who ever done the u-joints in it previously is a HACK! cause they used some sort of epoxy to hold the u-joints in cause "THEY BROKE" the housing were those c-clips pop in to hold the u-joint from falling out.
Yeah that was a long day. Put it this way in order for me to get it out of the shop I had to WELD the u-joints in place to drive it home.
As long as I wasnt revving threw the moon and wasnt doing over 80km/h I was fine, but other wise It had bad vibrations cause of the weld from the pull of the heat/unbalanced.

So when I installed my new aluminin drive shaft and had the seal/collet replaced all problems were fixed. fingers: leave:

OVERKILL 01-27-2008 11:33 AM

LMAO!!!!!!!!! Keith, it sounds like you had one hell of a friggin' adventure!!!!!!!!!!!!

So from the sounds of it, you DID have your tailstock bushing replaced?

Stang Illusions 5.0L 01-27-2008 11:11 PM

Yes also along with the seal. NOW I think I have a bent axle.....it never ends!

One of two things are gonna happen either I sell it, or im gonna get pissed off and completely cage and tub the outa it!


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