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Simons 06-13-2012 10:31 PM

need help choosing exhaust
 
Hey everyone, I am looking at the Magnaflow street axle-back exhaust, and the Borla touring axle back exhaust

Which do you recommend and why? I want a deeper throatier sound, but don't really want any snapping/popping or as little as possible.

Just wondering if people have had either 1 or both and which you liked better.

Might be going on a V6 2013.

Thanks

ChadStang 06-13-2012 10:33 PM

I've heard Magnaflow on the 4.0 and it sounded ok. Haven't heard anything aftermarket on the 3.7 yet though.

Simons 06-14-2012 09:15 AM

it is tough....... i been listening to sound clips on the net, but they can be miss leading. I tried listening to both one after the other, and they sound close, but it is a tough call. That is why i am reaching out to CMOC

herbz 06-14-2012 10:57 AM

I find the 3.7 has a better sound than the 4.0. Hit up youtube and watch some videos and maybe you'll hear something you like.

Ray Spencer 06-14-2012 11:03 AM

I have the Magnaflow dual exhaust kit #16605 on my 2005 V6 has a low rumble at idle but a snotty response on take off. Well recommended.

digger56 06-14-2012 02:09 PM

if you can put up with some drone ,get some Macs.Its old school deep rumble at idle and a great attention getter when you walk on it.Its all personal preferences.

Simons 06-14-2012 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by herbz (Post 179615)
I find the 3.7 has a better sound than the 4.0. Hit up youtube and watch some videos and maybe you'll hear something you like.

I have been watching vids on youtube, but it is tough as you don't know if the camera mic is picking everything up or not and if it is distorting the sound at all.

SNAKEBITE 06-19-2012 01:32 PM

on the older 4.0 guys went with stock GT mufflers and they liked that setup

Whitelion95GT 06-19-2012 06:20 PM

I just had the Flowmaster 40's put on my 5 Liter 5 spd Mustang last month. Sounds great with a nice deep tone. :)

Ray Spencer 06-21-2012 09:22 AM

http://www.magnaflow.com/00home.asp

If your crusing into Edmonton...go see Rick at ABC's Mufflers, 50 Street just north of the Whitemud on the east side of 50 Street. It's the last shop at the end of the building.

stev0h 06-21-2012 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by SNAKEBITE (Post 179942)
on the older 4.0 guys went with stock GT mufflers and they liked that setup

Yep, that's what I did after watching many, many YouTube vid's of many, many different set-ups. But buyer beware, whatever set-up you decide on, you'll never get your v6 to sound like a v8.

herbz 06-22-2012 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by stev0h (Post 180037)
But buyer beware, whatever set-up you decide on, you'll never get your v6 to sound like a v8.

Good advice. I put Flow 40's on my F150 that had a 4.2L V6 and thinking back it may have been a mistake.

Ray Spencer 06-22-2012 04:20 PM

Buyers beware you will never get your GT to sound like a fine 4.0 liter V6.

stev0h 06-22-2012 04:48 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You da man Ray, you da man :tup

DublDee 06-22-2012 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Spencer (Post 180100)
Buyers beware you will never get your GT to sound like a fine 4.0 liter V6.

There I just disconnected two of the coils on my 5.0, and it sounds exactly like a 4.0. :lol

Whitelion95GT 06-22-2012 11:30 PM

Lmfao

stev0h 06-23-2012 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by DublDee (Post 180127)
There I just disconnected two of the coils on my 5.0, and it sounds exactly like a 4.0. :lol

Hmm, might believe that when we hear it . . . POST A VID DublDee :tup

DublDee 06-23-2012 07:30 AM

^^^ Tee Hee Hee....:D

Ray Spencer 06-23-2012 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by DublDee (Post 180127)
There I just disconnected two of the coils on my 5.0, and it sounds exactly like a 4.0. :lol

I never really told you how funny you actually are.:chacha::lol:LOL:

DublDee 06-23-2012 05:21 PM

Thanks!

Simons 06-24-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by stev0h (Post 180037)
Yep, that's what I did after watching many, many YouTube vid's of many, many different set-ups. But buyer beware, whatever set-up you decide on, you'll never get your v6 to sound like a v8.

I am not expecting it to sound like a v8......but i do want to enjoy hearing it while driving around town though... it is a little louder then when i first got it, but not enough for me. So i want to get something thats a fair bit louder, with no drone and have a deep throaty sound.

Ray Spencer 06-24-2012 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Simons (Post 180204)
I am not expecting it to sound like a v8......but i do want to enjoy hearing it while driving around town though... it is a little louder then when i first got it, but not enough for me. So i want to get something thats a fair bit louder, with no drone and have a deep throaty sound.

I would go with the Magnaflow setup like I mentioned. I know a fellow in Edmonton that put Pypes on his ride, they were so loud that if you wanted to have a conversation with him, he had to shut off his Mustang. A beefy noise is fine as long as it does not split your eardrum.

I believe the Magnaflow setup for my 2005 was $735.00 installed but it might be a little higher for your ride.

stev0h 06-24-2012 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Simons (Post 180204)
......but i do want to enjoy hearing it while driving around town though... it is a little louder then when i first got it, but not enough for me.......

That was my biggest disappointment when I took out a '12 3.7 for a test drive. On the boil it sounded really good, but just cruising around town no one would know you had a dual exhaust unless they were staring at your rear end. Which kinda surprised me, because the 4.0 had a nice subdued rumble right from the get-go in '05.

Simons 06-24-2012 05:19 PM

I think i am going to do just axle backs as well so i can install it myself.... not saying i couldn't from axle back, but don't know if there is an advantage going from axle back to cat back.

Ray Spencer 06-24-2012 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Simons (Post 180219)
I think i am going to do just axle backs as well so i can install it myself.... not saying i couldn't from axle back, but don't know if there is an advantage going from axle back to cat back.

One thing you might want to do is to determine if the axle backs will affect your warranty coverage. If you interfere with the catalytic converter your warranty may be null and void. Your best bet is to check with the dealer service department, assuming your Mustang is still under warranty.

rampant racing 06-24-2012 05:35 PM

So i want to get something thats a fair bit louder, with no drone and have a deep throaty sound.
well i got news for ya my friend and don't take this the wrong way but ya should have bought a v8 if that's what ya want.this motor was not designed to ever exhibit those characteristics.it is a 4 valve cammer v6 with only 3.7l displacement.your wishes are not realistic at all.put whatever muffler you want on it ,it will make no difference,you will nver get a no drone ,louder ,deeper sound from it...EVER! try a set of factory gt mufffs on it before you spend a bunch on some hyped up junk.i did it, i know,trust me most are a waste of time.you can have louder if you want but they will drone and always sound high pitched at wot because that is the nature of the motor.the best way i found to make a v6 sound good is to shut it up,keep it quiet and carry a big stick.put a blower or turbo on it and listen to that .it worked for me.good luck and enjoy.

Ray Spencer 06-24-2012 06:14 PM

Simon there is no need to buy a GT to get a throaty sound. There are various exhaust kits out there that will provide a deeper sound and improve your gas mileage also. I have the deeper sound with mine and it gets lots of raves from various folks. There are some that are into super loud though and you cannot say them from the GT viewpoint. I guess it all comes down to dollars and in my case I did not want to spend an additional $15-20,000.00 for a GT. What helps with the deeper sound with mine besides the Magnaflow exhaust is the MAC CAI and the Brenspeed Tune. When you read these posts Simon you have to remember that everyone has the right to an opinion and to post accordingly. I am just a little tired of the 4.0 being driven into the ground, its a good product a deserves a little more respect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6WLy...eature=related

rampant racing 06-24-2012 07:16 PM

he doesn't have a 4.0l ray,he has the 3.7 and it is a different creature altogether.i agree the v6's don't get enough respect and i am doing the best i can to change that fact lol.yes you can get a muffler that rumbles nicely at idle but sounds like ass under wot.alsoyou can get one that is very quiet at idle and sounds great at wot,it's hard to get both with a v6 with four valves per cylinder.i like the stock gt muffler sound on the 4.0 but to each his own and people like different things so pick the one you like and have at er.problem is finding out how they sound before you buy them.that's the tricky part.lol good luck.ps my buddy had the magnaflow and dynomax and they both droned alot.

Ray Spencer 06-24-2012 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by rampant racing (Post 180230)
he doesn't have a 4.0l ray,he has the 3.7 and it is a different creature altogether.i agree the v6's don't get enough respect and i am doing the best i can to change that fact lol.yes you can get a muffler that rumbles nicely at idle but sounds like ass under wot.alsoyou can get one that is very quiet at idle and sounds great at wot,it's hard to get both with a v6 with four valves per cylinder.i like the stock gt muffler sound on the 4.0 but to each his own and people like different things so pick the one you like and have at er.problem is finding out how they sound before you buy them.that's the tricky part.lol good luck.ps my buddy had the magnaflow and dynomax and they both droned alot.

According to all the write ups the 3.7 is suppose to be superior to the 4.0 with a smaller engine and more horsepower. Guess if I had the cash I could buy a 2013 and compare the 2005 4.0 to the 2013 3.7. From what your telling me the 3.7 is not all its cracked up to be....me bad I guess. You are quite right in the fact that there is no place you can go to see the different exhaust systems in action. I just went by what was recommended by a friend that had the Magnaflows on his 05. I like the appearance and sound on my 05...to each his own. We all recommend what we like.

Simons 06-24-2012 07:43 PM

Thanks for the inputs, I have a 2013 v6 3.7L

I am not going to get it to sound like a GT or a GT500 and i know this. I would like it to be a little louder when driving so i can hear it a bit. I have bumper to bumper warranty for 100,000 or 7 years. I will pop in to see if axle back exhaust and CAI will void warranty or not before getting anything.

I bought my car in Edmonton and brought it back to Saskatchewan. The dealership that i got it from actually installs aftermarket exhaust, CAI, tuners and such so i have to ask locally if it will void if i do this stuff.

Thanks guys.

rampant racing 06-24-2012 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Spencer (Post 180231)
According to all the write ups the 3.7 is suppose to be superior to the 4.0 with a smaller engine and more horsepower. Guess if I had the cash I could buy a 2013 and compare the 2005 4.0 to the 2013 3.7. From what your telling me the 3.7 is not all its cracked up to be....me bad I guess. You are quite right in the fact that there is no place you can go to see the different exhaust systems in action. I just went by what was recommended by a friend that had the Magnaflows on his 05. I like the appearance and sound on my 05...to each his own. We all recommend what we like.

i never said anything about the 3.7 not being what it;s cracked up to be so please don't put words in my mouth .the 3.7 is superior to the 4.0 in every way possible.i suppose now i am bashing the 4.0,get real ray.his motor is built to rev and has a 3.7l displacement ,telling him it will rumble is total bs buddy.the motor is simply not made to sound the way he wants it to and telling him it will is unrealistic.i hope he finds one he likes but the ricer sound is right around the corner with the wrong muffler choice for this car cause it is a revver just like a ricer .my 4.0l sounded like hell and ricey or european sounding when i changed the muffs to the pypes mufflers that were hyped up as being throaty.this of course was a sales pitch.you can't change the nature of this 3.7l beast simply because it is not designed to be throaty from an engine stand point not a muffler stand point.i'm all done with this thread.good luck

Simons 06-24-2012 08:57 PM

Hey guys, I appreciate the inputs and don't want this turning into a fight/war.... was just asking what to do. If I end up getting a system and don't like it, then I guess i sell it and lose money and go back to factory exhaust and wait till warranty is up and supercharger it.

Thanks for the inputs... i will do a little more research then go from there.

rampant racing 06-24-2012 09:44 PM

no wars here brother just a healthy debate,lol.no worries brother.just trying to save you some money and a bunch of headaches chasing a sound that is not possible with this motor.but i hope you find something you really like .good luck.

Whitelion95GT 06-24-2012 10:12 PM

I heard many of the 4-L on the link www.youtube.co Ray posted with the Magnaflow and I think they sounded great.

Ray Spencer 06-24-2012 10:17 PM

I am just stating an opinion based on my own experience with the Magnaflow setup. Yeah the Canadian Constitution and section 2 & 7 of the Charter. Hmmmm were are the moderators anyways.

rampant racing 06-24-2012 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Whitelion95GT (Post 180249)
I heard many of the 4-L on the link www.youtube.co Ray posted with the Magnaflow and I think they sounded great.

the discussion was about the 3.7 not the 4.0.they can sound pretty good with the proper parts.i like the stealthy sound of mine with the gt muffs .i prefer to listen to the blower than the exhaust.i don't like drone.

ex91 06-24-2012 11:27 PM

wrong you can get a v6 car to sound as good as a v8 . its not that hard i did it in my drive ways its easy..........gary shut up right about now........yes yes take a 4.0 out and put a 4.6v8 in and now it sounds just like a v8 lol.



and to the guy that said take his 5.0 take off two coils and he has a 4.0 v6??? no you would have a 5.0 running on 3.75l 4 valve per cyl dohc vs a 4.0 witch is sohc 2valve per cyl and not missing on two cyl. i know i know im just being a pita but i got to have fun to.. but if you want a better sounding idle for the 3.7 get it tuned they can mess with the cam timming to make it sound meaner.they do it with the 5.0 and then do it with the 3.7

Ray Spencer 06-25-2012 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by ex91 (Post 180254)
wrong you can get a v6 car to sound as good as a v8 . its not that hard i did it in my drive ways its easy..........gary shut up right about now........yes yes take a 4.0 out and put a 4.6v8 in and now it sounds just like a v8 lol.



and to the guy that said take his 5.0 take off two coils and he has a 4.0 v6??? no you would have a 5.0 running on 3.75l 4 valve per cyl dohc vs a 4.0 witch is sohc 2valve per cyl and not missing on two cyl. i know i know im just being a pita but i got to have fun to.. but if you want a better sounding idle for the 3.7 get it tuned they can mess with the cam timming to make it sound meaner.they do it with the 5.0 and then do it with the 3.7

I like your style...well stated.

DublDee 06-27-2012 08:01 AM

and to the guy that said take his 5.0 take off two coils and he has a 4.0 v6??? no you would have a 5.0 running on 3.75l 4 valve per cyl dohc vs a 4.0 witch is sohc 2valve per cyl and not missing on two cyl. i know i know im just being a pita but i got to have fun to.. but if you want a better sounding idle for the 3.7 get it tuned they can mess with the cam timming to make it sound meaner.they do it with the 5.0 and then do it with the 3.7[/QUOTE]

I don't think I said I would have a 4.0, I said it would sound like one. But anyway, just so you know I like the V6's, it's just that I LOVE the V8's. :D

Whitelion95GT 06-27-2012 12:57 PM

The V6 Mustangs are awesome and put out all kinds of HP. I also love the v8 5.L Mustang, can't beat the sound that comes from a V8 Mustang. :)


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