Thinkin of CAMS?
 

heres some helpfull info i found on another site about selecting a camshaft for your ride

http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=102280

Enjoy its a long read but worth it!

goodpost: rockon: thumb:

Some good info in there, people always go for the biggest cam they can, which sometimes can cost power and almost always costs driveability, the "right" cam gives you the best of both worlds.

I just had the "right" cams installed on my Bullitt and picked up 79 hp and 68tq. bringing a stock bottom end 2V to 503rwhp with an a/f of 11.8 across the board.

Nice find!
When i was deciding on cams for mine,i did a lot of search,and reading on Modular Depot,a site deticated strictly to modular fords.
Plus i talked to Scott@VTEngines of VT engines that specialize in modular fords aswell.I was originally gonna go with comp cams,but VT's seemed to be what i was looking for in the end.Proven dyno graphs,and #'s were available over at Modular Depot. thumb:

ive been doing alot of research in choosing the right cams for mine so far im still torn between VT stage 2 or comp 278 some good tail pipe vids on youtube
but the specs gotta be right for what i want to do
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maybe i'll add it over in the reference section, nice find thanks for sharing

YA good find! THis is my first post WHOOO! I got a 2002 mustang gt with 35000km on it. Anyways im thinking of either buying comp cams 268 since its inbetween a stage 1 and stage two of vt. It was a good rpm range of 1600-5600 and lift is .5 so i wouldnt have to worry about clearance, and with that i would get my heads ported to a stage two to fit the 268 cams better. BUt ive been recently looking at used prochargers for around 3500 anyways if anyone has a deal on aprocharger let me know but what do you think should i do? Labour would be cheap my uncle has his own shop. I also just put on magnoflow exhaust, throttle body, cai and a short throw last month in my garage so if that helps. i was also thinking of putting on some 3 73 gears to avoid that low end torque loss. this wont happen till end of april when i save up some more money.

Cant go wrong with 373's ive got 4.10's but that just because the auto i couldnt tell ya anything about how they perform i cant get enough time off work to get them installed. does anybody know the cam spec for VT stage 2?

THe specs for the VT stage II N/A cams i found on vtengines.com "Stage 2 cams are the perfect choice for ported heads and all out N/A street/strip performance. MUST BE USED WITH AFTERMARKET VALVESPRINGS. Aggressive idle. 3000-6500 prm. Gains of 30-35rwhp are common. Like 3.73 gear or better and 2800+ stall in auto's. MUST BE TUNED AFTER INSTALL. .560/.575 lift, 225/235 .050" duration, 108 LSA"

Welcome aboard.Your stang has got some low k's on it for it's year,great car to rape rockon: !!!!
As for gears,especially if you are planning to stay N/A,DO NOT GO with 3.73's,the jump from the factory 3.27 to 3.73's isn't really a big jump of a notice for torque gains ZZZ: .I did this mistake.We all know that the 4.6L lacks the kick in the paints,unlike the 5.0L,so 4.10's all the way,especially since you are planning on doing cams,and ported heads.When i was stock cammed,the 3.73's were....well....alright smack: .After the cam swap to the VT cams,the 3.73's were....wall: ....!So then i went 4.10's last summer,and wished i listened to everyone on various boards,aswell as some good friends about going to 4.10's in the first place.Believe me,highway driving will not hurt you one bit either.I highway drive with my stang in the summer,and tell you the truth,i get better gas miliage,as weird as it sounds.LOL!Am not working the engine as hard.
As for cams selection.Do a lot of reading,searching.ModularDepot.com is a good place to start as that site is for the modular guys,and is full,and i mean full of do it yourself guys with info,and they build,breath,race,repair there on steeds,plus are willing to help,and steer you to the right path thumb: .
Also VT is a sponsor on this web board,pm Scott@VTEngines ,or Jim@VTEngines.They can also give you some good info.These two guys are the best,very willing to help,easy to talk too,and awesome to hang out with too smokejump: LOL!
Again welcome.good luck on your path for more hp!!! firejump:

I can confirm the gains,my numbers before the cams swap was 251.XX hp,and after the cams swap with no other mods,it was 286.XX hp,so yeah,35 hp gain seems to be really accurate. rockon:

Those are some nice numbers. Im hoping to reach 300RWP . I hope i can get there with stage II vt' cams, ported heads and maybe a new intake.

What were your torque gains after 1low03gt

Thanks.rockon:
That is why i went with the VT's.Everywhere i read,and re searched,had dyno graphs to compare,and asked questions,the VT's seemed to be the proven ones without any other bolt on.Which is what i wanted.I wanted cams that actually made good power before any other mods were added(being a budget builder wall: ),then those other mods would be the icing on the cake afterwards to further the gains.
My gains for torque was about 19 ft pounds.Before cams was 291.XX ft lbs,and after was around 310.XX ft lbs.
300 hp shouldn't be hard with what you are planning.I'm hoping to get close to that without the ported heads.I still need to put in my headers,and my ported Bullitt intake,then i will see how close i will be.I don't have full bolt ons right now either.
All i have for mods is the VT stage II n/a cams,mac h pipe & flowmaster 40's,ported stock upper plenum with an intake spacer & stock throttle body,drop in K&N,and a Custom Tuned SCT chip.No other hp making bolt ons.I'm quite confident that there is a few more ponies in her before i do anything else,but.... LOL!
I think once i get the headers,the Bullitt intake,added with a throttle body,and maybe some under drive pulleys,and another custome tune,300 hp should be doable.I hope smack: LOL!!

Sounds like you'd hit atleast 300 with a half decent tune. I cant wait to pick up those cams next month. So far my favorite mod as been my short throw shifter best first purchase ever for us manual drivers!!! My buddy just finished rebuilding his engine over the winter holidays and he is gonna let me park my car in his garage and help me with my cams and heads, just gotta find a reliable engine shop to do the port job. Excited!!! Cant wait for that chucka sound!rockon:

The throttle body makes a cool like hiss sound between 2500-3000 rpm sounds neat. You got a nice ride though man. I like the no spoiler. I think i should take mine off i hate how the dust collects at the back around it

Yeah,it's probably there,but how safe the tune would be is another story smack: .
Yes,the shifter,it should be the #1 to do on the list of mods.What an improvement it makes. rockon:
If you plan on the VT stage II n/a cams,you will not be disappointed,i promise thumb: .To here what they sound like,click on "Listen Here!!!" in my signature.teeth:
It's good to have friends that will help in modding,saves a ton. Make sure to get the pics,and up dates up during the process. :tup

Thanks for the kind words,much appriciated.!!! :cheers:
I'll most likely do a throttle body next year.I still need to spend some bucks for the Bullitt intake hardware before i can get it on :bleh !! LOL!

Jays (1low03gt) car sounds and is starting to look bad ass...now all it needs is a Vortech to keep up....wired:

poke: N/A with this little 2V no: !!
The only way i will spend money on a blower,is if i plan to go 4V evil: . :rockwoot:
And thanks form those nice words sir!!!! teeth:

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best part is...its best offer...I'd offer fiddy...lol

If i had the cash!?!?!?!?!?! wall: AAAAHHHHHH,and the 6 speed too! smack:

not bad price i guess thumb:

Yeah considering ford is selling it in there racing catalogue for more without trans. no:

VTSTAGE 1 Gains of 25-30rwhp. 540/550 lift, 224/226 .050" duration, 110 LSA VT

VTSTAGE 2 Gains of 30-35rwhp are common. Like 3.73 gear or better and 2800+ stall in auto's. MUST BE TUNED AFTER INSTALL. .560/.575 lift, 225/235 .050" duration, 108 LSA

SOHC - Stock replacement cam with more RV power. Better torque and power. WIll work with stock computer. RPM operating range:1200-5200. .500/.500, 262/270 .050 dur, 114LSA COMP CAMS XE262H 2V Cams

SOHC - Hot street cam, needs 3.55+ gears. 2000+ stall. Needs intake, exhaust and computer upgrade. Noticable idle. RPM operating range:1800-5800. .550/.550, 234/238 .050 dur, 113LSAComp Cams PI XE270AH 2V Cams

SOHC - Street/Strip, needs 3.73+ gears, 2400+ stall. Needs aftermarket intake, exhaust and computer upgrade. Rough idle. RPM operating range:2200-6200. .550/.550, 242/246 .050 dur, 113LSAComp Cams PI XE278AH 2V Cams

CROWER STAGE 1 Excellent for stock replacement. No other modifications required. RPM Range: Idle to 5500+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower.

CROWER Stage 2 Hot street profile. Emphasis on mid range. Spring Recommended. RPM range: 1250 to 6000+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower.

CROWER Stage 3 Street/Strip profile. Emphasis on top end power. Spring required. RPM range: 1750 to 6750+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower

So many choices who to go with me running an auto im really kinda F****ed unless i want to change out my torque converter which looks like what i have to do Crower doesnt give any cam spec COMP PI XE278AH 2V Cams
and VT stage two both call for tourque converter upgrade atleast a 2400 stall if i do that i dont know if ill get lock up at crusin speed in od?
any input would be apreciated...........................and dont say 5 speed its not happening LOLsmack:

now that i read back over my post this cam looks like it would work nicely has anybody run it before? Comp Cams PI XE270AH 2V Camsrockon:

There are a few guys at Mod Depot running those cams with good success.
Just make sure on what you choose.Took me a full year before i decided on the VT's,and i was originally going to go with the comp cams.I went threw every post,dyno graph to mods,and all the tech on Mod Depot's forum board,and Stangnet's forum boards.
I myself wanted cams that allowed drivability,cams that made power on there OWN without having to dish out all kinds of money that i couldn't afford all at once to get the other components to make the cams work(joys of a builders budget wall: ),but yet to have those other components inhance the power level of the cams that already make good power when the funds allow.
Comps have a good rep,but...they are about production aswell,not a bad thing,but..,and have been known to have a few cams here and there out of spec to what was suppost to be spec'd.
Crowers have a good rep,but...from what i've seen for the little 2V,numbers werent that great unless you did the headers,and intake,yada yada yada,so to me that was limited in what they offered.
VT engines live and work with modular motors,that right there was the #1 reason in part of my choice to going with VT's,they have a good rep.There cams GUARRANTY the hp #'s they state when advertising there cams,the above 2 don't.
I know a few guys running the 262's from comp,and make nowhere near what i have read,and graphs i've seen from guys running the VT stage I's n/a cams.
And that is for bolt on to bolt on.But that also could be in the tune.
What ever you choose,good luck,cause there is lots of variety of cams to choose from,but only one set will be right for you.
And for the cost to do the cam swaps in a 2V,plus the price for parts for the 2V,you want to do this once.thumb:
Cheers!

i need to get in touch with sombody that has a cammed auto i dont know of anyone on here (99-04) that is as for intake and exhaust upgrades ive got that pretty much covered cams ,springs and adjustable timing gears should be all i need plus a tune but i need that anyway i dont know if this is in the budget this year but im hoping for a good tax return. i might just hold off and do some suspension mods for a while but for now this is racking my brain at the moment.smack:

Notice i keep saying Modular Depot forums for there tech thumb: .To tell you the truth,there is only a handful of us over here with cammed 2V's,the laybour is to much for some,and the install is foreign to most,so the blower route,or the bottle route is easier for them,and most likely makes more sence.So i'm sure somebody over there at M.D has an auto that is equipped stang with cams.You don't have to create an account to search there 2V section . :biggrin:
Plus,like i stated.I wanted cams that didn't need that stuff to make hp.I wanted cams to make good power first.VT's were the ones.That is what you want.All the other stuff like headers,and intake should be the icing on the cake.For the other brands,they weren't the icing on the cake,they were needed to get the full potential out the cams right off the hop,because the comps,and crowers didn't make good hp on there own,that to me is limiting to the cams.At least VT GUARRANTIES there hp rating right in in front of us in writting/typing. rockon:
I don't have personnal expirience with the other brands,but i read enough to make my descision,and i have not looked back since :cheers: :tup !!

LOL yes yes VT..VT..VT j/k im concerned about my torque converter because the stage 2's call for 2800! for a stall.thats too high for comfy street driving even with 4.10's by my calculations.somebody may differ. stage 1's arent enough for what i want do they make a stage 1.5 LOL

Why wouldn't you think there stage I's would be good. :frown:
There is a guy over on stangnet with over 290 hp with the usual bolt ons,can't remember his torque #'s,and the idle isn't bad either,i have a few stage I sound clips.rockon:
I think if you decide to go with cams that are bigger then stage I's from VT or over the 262's from comp cams,then you will need a convertor no matter what cry:. wall:

but why do i need one what could happen might buck alittle ah f*ck it i better just go get a TQ converter but what stall?whats the affect going to bi with a high stall in OD at cruising speed? its not going to lock up?
stage 1 isnt an option its not what i want

I believe compcams has a stage 1.5 cam its a 268 cam on vtengines.com I cant remember if its for pi(99-04) or npi engine. 1low03gt After you installed the cams did you have to give the car more gas everytime you went from a stand point so you didnt stall or was it pretty much the same? FOr 5spd.

OK WTF i went to modular depot found 1 vid that didnt sound like a stage one to me i read of guys making crazy power with them and some guys say go stage 2 im ripping my hair out on this somebody send me some tail pipe vids of ACTAUL VT stage 1's maybe some timeslips dyno graphs anythingSuicide: bricks: shake: scream: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

She has never wanted to stall.That would be in the tune.If she were to stall when mashing the throttle to wide open from a stand point,then your tuner doesn't know what he is doing. :confused:

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I'm will up load some vids for you!!! pathead: teeth:
So hold on.LOL!!

VT Stage I's with dumped exhaust,and with an auto...Sounds pretty good dumped rockon: !!And notice with the auto that once in gear,the rpms drop more.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Stage1cams.jpg
VT Stage I's with full exhaust to tailpipe,and 5 speed...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...h_vtstage1.jpg
LOL,i hope i don't get into trouble using other mustangers vids smack: .

And the VT stage II's for comparison.
Mine....
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...h_100_0066.jpg
And someone elses,and again i hope i don't get into trouble using another stangers vid no: .
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../th_Stang1.jpg

THANK YOU!!!!!!! the first one i seen but wasnt buying that it was a stage 1 ive done some research and found unless you plan on going real high rpm's the stage ones are better and will make better mid range torque than the stage 2'sgoodpost: Jay you da man