25-35rwhp from a CAI??
02-07-2005, 08:04 PM
#21
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Good points brown bro's but what the JLT intake's do well is make power properly, from increased cold airflow.
I do love my steeda unit on my cobra though.
Unit's like the MAC and even the steeda have improper "clocking" of the maf, resulting in a skewed air meter function which leans out the A/F mixture enough to make more hp. Of course the bigger tubing ot filter helps, but the main gains are seen because of the 'clocked' maf.
The JLT unit's make ton's of power, with the maf in the proper position. This make everyone's life a lot easier...especially mine when doing mail order tunes. Improper clocking of a MAF is the main cause for a crappy mail order tune.
Just my .02 worth
I do love my steeda unit on my cobra though.
Unit's like the MAC and even the steeda have improper "clocking" of the maf, resulting in a skewed air meter function which leans out the A/F mixture enough to make more hp. Of course the bigger tubing ot filter helps, but the main gains are seen because of the 'clocked' maf.
The JLT unit's make ton's of power, with the maf in the proper position. This make everyone's life a lot easier...especially mine when doing mail order tunes. Improper clocking of a MAF is the main cause for a crappy mail order tune.
Just my .02 worth
02-07-2005, 08:36 PM
#22
Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
Good points brown bro's but what the JLT intake's do well is make power properly, from increased cold airflow.
I do love my steeda unit on my cobra though.
Unit's like the MAC and even the steeda have improper "clocking" of the maf, resulting in a skewed air meter function which leans out the A/F mixture enough to make more hp. Of course the bigger tubing ot filter helps, but the main gains are seen because of the 'clocked' maf.
The JLT unit's make ton's of power, with the maf in the proper position. This make everyone's life a lot easier...especially mine when doing mail order tunes. Improper clocking of a MAF is the main cause for a crappy mail order tune.
Just my .02 worth
I do love my steeda unit on my cobra though.
Unit's like the MAC and even the steeda have improper "clocking" of the maf, resulting in a skewed air meter function which leans out the A/F mixture enough to make more hp. Of course the bigger tubing ot filter helps, but the main gains are seen because of the 'clocked' maf.
The JLT unit's make ton's of power, with the maf in the proper position. This make everyone's life a lot easier...especially mine when doing mail order tunes. Improper clocking of a MAF is the main cause for a crappy mail order tune.
Just my .02 worth
02-07-2005, 08:49 PM
#23
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They lean out the car enough to SAFELY make power. EVERY Cold Air kit in the world basically does this and it is how some companies claim more HP over others.
Clocking a MAF in the wrong position, on a N/A car will not cause any harm or damage. I was simply making a point about the JLT.
I ran the steeda kit on my car without a tune for months. No worries....
To avoid this, drill holes in the maf housing and clock it at the factory position. This is only really a problem on blower cars and when using mail order chips where a factory position is assumed.
Clocking a MAF in the wrong position, on a N/A car will not cause any harm or damage. I was simply making a point about the JLT.
I ran the steeda kit on my car without a tune for months. No worries....
To avoid this, drill holes in the maf housing and clock it at the factory position. This is only really a problem on blower cars and when using mail order chips where a factory position is assumed.
Last edited by P.Meister; 02-07-2005 at 08:54 PM.
02-07-2005, 09:15 PM
#24
Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
They lean out the car enough to SAFELY make power. EVERY Cold Air kit in the world basically does this and it is how some companies claim more HP over others.
Clocking a MAF in the wrong position, on a N/A car will not cause any harm or damage. I was simply making a point about the JLT.
I ran the steeda kit on my car without a tune for months. No worries....
To avoid this, drill holes in the maf housing and clock it at the factory position. This is only really a problem on blower cars and when using mail order chips where a factory position is assumed.
Clocking a MAF in the wrong position, on a N/A car will not cause any harm or damage. I was simply making a point about the JLT.
I ran the steeda kit on my car without a tune for months. No worries....
To avoid this, drill holes in the maf housing and clock it at the factory position. This is only really a problem on blower cars and when using mail order chips where a factory position is assumed.
02-08-2005, 12:13 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by meister@steeda.ca
Good points brown bro's but what the JLT intake's do well is make power properly, from increased cold airflow.
I do love my steeda unit on my cobra though.
Unit's like the MAC and even the steeda have improper "clocking" of the maf, resulting in a skewed air meter function which leans out the A/F mixture enough to make more hp. Of course the bigger tubing ot filter helps, but the main gains are seen because of the 'clocked' maf.
The JLT unit's make ton's of power, with the maf in the proper position. This make everyone's life a lot easier...especially mine when doing mail order tunes. Improper clocking of a MAF is the main cause for a crappy mail order tune.
Just my .02 worth
I do love my steeda unit on my cobra though.
Unit's like the MAC and even the steeda have improper "clocking" of the maf, resulting in a skewed air meter function which leans out the A/F mixture enough to make more hp. Of course the bigger tubing ot filter helps, but the main gains are seen because of the 'clocked' maf.
The JLT unit's make ton's of power, with the maf in the proper position. This make everyone's life a lot easier...especially mine when doing mail order tunes. Improper clocking of a MAF is the main cause for a crappy mail order tune.
Just my .02 worth
Just my .25 worth
02-08-2005, 12:33 PM
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In the most simple words...
Even a slight re-clocking of ANY METER...factory, pro-m, SCT,etc even 5 degrees will result in a different a/f reading due to the sampling area on the maf being in a different position therefore not allowing the stock air meter transfer function to be 100% accurate
Even a slight re-clocking of ANY METER...factory, pro-m, SCT,etc even 5 degrees will result in a different a/f reading due to the sampling area on the maf being in a different position therefore not allowing the stock air meter transfer function to be 100% accurate
02-08-2005, 01:22 PM
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When you rotate a MAF, the sample tube is not in the stock position.
Go to a vehicle, it can even be stock...rotate the maf and see what it does to the air meter function. Why do you think meter's come so they can only be installed ONE WAY
Go to a vehicle, it can even be stock...rotate the maf and see what it does to the air meter function. Why do you think meter's come so they can only be installed ONE WAY
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