Hey V6-ers ..... Got boost?
So, I'm looking at picking up a little boost for the SN95 3.8L and am torn between what I believe to be the only two superchargers offered for this little pony.
1. 1994-98 Mustang V6 ProCharger High Output P-1SC Supercharger w/Intercooler (11psi) 2. 1994-98 Mustang 3.8L V6 Vortech Supercharger Kit (V2 S-Trim) Anybody have either of these blowers mounted on their SN95's and would be willing to share some pics, experiences, or recommendations? |
I do not have a 3.8 but there is nobody wiser than Tom Morrana on the 3.8 engine. Give him a call and see what he has to say.
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if i had to add a power adder id go turbo
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I have no doubt Tom Morana is an extremely knowledgeable guy. I've read a lot about him and Morana Racing Engines. Unfortunately, I've heard very mixed reviews about Morana Racing and I don't have the budget to experiment. I think I'm just gonna stick to one of these two Suprechargers and then get my core engine components (cam, upper and lower intake, heads, plus forged internals) From Tom over at Super Six Motorsports. I've never read anything negative about those guys - I've spoken to Tom over email and over the phone and he's very professional. Expensive, but professional. I figure I'll go supercharger and then a Stage 3 Powerpack - should add roughly an additional 150 HP to the stock 150 HP. I'll be happy with 300 plus HP.
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What about a turbo as someone has already mentioned?
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Worst thing I have heard about Morrana are related to his time lines never his quality.
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i would deff go for a split port swap (99-04 heads/intake) and then possibly a mysteed M112 blower or TMA turbo. :tup
only issue i see with ur timeline is that i would recomend getting the engine work done first, THEN the power adder. with the engine work, it'll run forever, but running boost, you just may strand yourself with a blown rod or whatever other problem of putting that poor old engine through. i thought of putting a turbo on the civic, but i'd never do it till i have a cammed and forged internal K20 in there (cams are comming :) ) but none the less the easiest way is to do a 4.2 swap, with split port, and go from there. a 4.2 with S/P will gain you i've heard up too 50-70hp over a stock single port. and the new setup takes boost pretty well!!! :tup |
^^^ These are all great ideas. I wasn't leaning towards a turbo setup only because I don't know much about them or if a kit even exists for the SN95 V6. I do know there much for efficient and powerful.
As for the split port swap - are there kits that they sell to do it or do you have to kinda find parts from here and therer to make it work? Is there any custom fabrication involved? The supercharger / SSM combo just seemed like the least complicated way to get the 300 HP mark at a cost of roughly between $6000.00 and $7000.00. |
Originally Posted by 97_SALEEN_5.0
(Post 122797)
^^^ These are all great ideas. I wasn't leaning towards a turbo setup only because I don't know much about them or if a kit even exists for the SN95 V6. I do know there much for efficient and powerful.
As for the split port swap - are there kits that they sell to do it or do you have to kinda find parts from here and therer to make it work? Is there any custom fabrication involved? The supercharger / SSM combo just seemed like the least complicated way to get the 300 HP mark at a cost of roughly between $6000.00 and $7000.00. and as of right this instant i cannot find the splitport swap info, but i did find my link to the 4.2 swap info. The official 4.2 swap post - 3.8 Mustang Message Board the splitport swap is basically just swapping out the 94-98 heads/intakes for the more effective 99-04 setup. but you will have to look for a 99-00 intake if you want to keep things easier( to avoid the IMRC AKA: butterfly valves) if you are getting a power pack from SSM i would ask them if they have the info on the swap. the power pak they sell IS basicall all you need, with a few minor things. i'll keep my eyes open for ya on more info. the only thing i'm not sure about is the fuel rail, because the SN95 was a return style while the new edge was a returnless. |
I love how the turbo spools at the 1/4=neat
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Originally Posted by kena
(Post 122785)
Worst thing I have heard about Morrana are related to his time lines never his quality.
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Have an 11psi unit from ATI on my 02 for over 3 years now. Stock bottem end and 329 to the rear. Drives great, but I have done a lot of mods to keep it reliable (new 8.8 rear) In the never ending quest for more power and reliability, I have orderd a built forged 4.2 stroker from Morana. If he takes a bit more time, that is not really a problem for me.
Up the boost, ad some Meth, nitrous, not sure yet but I will have more options.:tup |
Originally Posted by 97_SALEEN_5.0
(Post 122854)
True. Maybe I will go see him. He makes a boxed intake for SN95's that looks SWEET.
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Originally Posted by TonyDee
(Post 122868)
Have an 11psi unit from ATI on my 02 for over 3 years now. Stock bottem end and 329 to the rear. Drives great, but I have done a lot of mods to keep it reliable (new 8.8 rear) In the never ending quest for more power and reliability, I have orderd a built forged 4.2 stroker from Morana. If he takes a bit more time, that is not really a problem for me.
Up the boost, ad some Meth, nitrous, not sure yet but I will have more options.:tup |
Now I would be interested to see those numbers. Any pics of that Procharger?
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What kind of hp numbers will the daughters car have when it's completed?
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We're aiming for around 300. I figure the stock 150, with a Procharger will get it to 260 (well, the website claims that anyways) and then a Stage 3 Powerpack from SSM - SSM says the Stage 3 kit will add 100 HP. Those numbers total 360 HP but I'm guessing that that combo will yield closer to 300 HP. Those engine mods plus gears, tighter suspension and a few extra's here and there (cold air intake, etc.) and it'll be quite the 232ci. It won't be the fastest V6 but it'll definetly keep up with a stock SN95 Cobra! I don't want her to have a race car, just something with a bit of pep that she'll be proud of. Sadly, the 150 HP that came with the SN95 's is very underpowered for the size / weight of the car - it's a chore to even pass on the highway sometimes.
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Originally Posted by SNAKEBITE
(Post 122876)
Have you ever run the straight line track and times?:tup
These tires will start smoking with hardly any throttle. Hopefully this summer I can score some DRs, but lots of money going into the motor ($7500.00) Attachment 20567 |
Good looking engine bay TonyDee. You've already spent 7500 on the motor or your planning on spending an additional 7500 more on the motor? If so, what are your plans?
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that's a nice looking setup tonydee. if you dont mind me asking. what strut brace are you using?
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Originally Posted by TonyDee
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I ran 13.9 on the DYNO with an older tune with 265 at the rear. I have been to the track once, and with my useless Sumitomo HTR Z 315/35/17 tires, I was not able to get any traction and only ran a straight 15 1/4 mile.
These tires will start smoking with hardly any throttle. Hopefully this summer I can score some DRs, but lots of money going into the motor ($7500.00) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...stang/eng1.jpg |
Originally Posted by 97_SALEEN_5.0
(Post 122898)
We're aiming for around 300. I figure the stock 150, with a Procharger will get it to 260 (well, the website claims that anyways) and then a Stage 3 Powerpack from SSM - SSM says the Stage 3 kit will add 100 HP. Those numbers total 360 HP but I'm guessing that that combo will yield closer to 300 HP. Those engine mods plus gears, tighter suspension and a few extra's here and there (cold air intake, etc.) and it'll be quite the 232ci. It won't be the fastest V6 but it'll definetly keep up with a stock SN95 Cobra! I don't want her to have a race car, just something with a bit of pep that she'll be proud of. Sadly, the 150 HP that came with the SN95 's is very underpowered for the size / weight of the car - it's a chore to even pass on the highway sometimes.
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Oh yes. We've already spoken about that. Lol. I agreed the car was hers - never said anything about the keys! ;)
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Originally Posted by 97_SALEEN_5.0
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Oh yes. We've already spoken about that. Lol. I agreed the car was hers - never said anything about the keys! ;)
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Originally Posted by 97_SALEEN_5.0
(Post 122930)
Good looking engine bay TonyDee. You've already spent 7500 on the motor or your planning on spending an additional 7500 more on the motor? If so, what are your plans?
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Originally Posted by Crafty
(Post 122935)
that's a nice looking setup tonydee. if you dont mind me asking. what strut brace are you using?
That would be a Steeda . |
Originally Posted by TonyDee
(Post 122995)
That would be a Steeda .
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Originally Posted by SNAKEBITE
(Post 123002)
I would assume you enjoy the road track days as opposed to the straight line stuff. If I could get over the fact my car would get filthy I would much prefer the road racing 10-1 over the drag racing:tup
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I know this is an older thread, but i am just trying to get caught up here, being a newb and all. There is a guy local to me who has a 1994 T- Bird SC and he runs a magnacharger on it. The car puts out 550+ hp. There is also guys running in the tens in the states with these 4000 lb cars. Some those SC guys are really hardcore and can run big numbers. I am a sbf guy and get ragged on by those guys who run these cars as i converted mone but i think they are pretty impressive.
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Originally Posted by VAEM
(Post 122751)
I have no doubt Tom Morana is an extremely knowledgeable guy. I've read a lot about him and Morana Racing Engines. Unfortunately, I've heard very mixed reviews about Morana Racing and I don't have the budget to experiment. I think I'm just gonna stick to one of these two Suprechargers and then get my core engine components (cam, upper and lower intake, heads, plus forged internals) From Tom over at Super Six Motorsports. I've never read anything negative about those guys - I've spoken to Tom over email and over the phone and he's very professional. Expensive, but professional. I figure I'll go supercharger and then a Stage 3 Powerpack - should add roughly an additional 150 HP to the stock 150 HP. I'll be happy with 300 plus HP.
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Originally Posted by kena
(Post 122785)
Worst thing I have heard about Morrana are related to his time lines never his quality.
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Originally Posted by Blackheart4355
(Post 127151)
Tom's quality is second to NONE! Timelines can be an issue. I got everything but my custom valve covers in time for the build, so just ended up cancelling them which ended up not being a problem and Tom understood. A great guy to deal with, class act all the way..plus he's a small Canadian business which I love supporting.
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Hmmm ... maybe I'll give Tom a call.
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Originally Posted by VAEM
(Post 127533)
Hmmm ... maybe I'll give Tom a call.
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