Thinkin of CAMS?
02-24-2007, 10:11 AM
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N/A with this little 2V 
!!The only way i will spend money on a blower,is if i plan to go 4V
. 
And thanks form those nice words sir!!!! teeth:
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02-24-2007, 01:40 PM
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02-25-2007, 12:55 PM
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VTSTAGE 1 Gains of 25-30rwhp. 540/550 lift, 224/226 .050" duration, 110 LSA VT
VTSTAGE 2 Gains of 30-35rwhp are common. Like 3.73 gear or better and 2800+ stall in auto's. MUST BE TUNED AFTER INSTALL. .560/.575 lift, 225/235 .050" duration, 108 LSA
SOHC - Stock replacement cam with more RV power. Better torque and power. WIll work with stock computer. RPM operating range:1200-5200. .500/.500, 262/270 .050 dur, 114LSA COMP CAMS XE262H 2V Cams
SOHC - Hot street cam, needs 3.55+ gears. 2000+ stall. Needs intake, exhaust and computer upgrade. Noticable idle. RPM operating range:1800-5800. .550/.550, 234/238 .050 dur, 113LSAComp Cams PI XE270AH 2V Cams
SOHC - Street/Strip, needs 3.73+ gears, 2400+ stall. Needs aftermarket intake, exhaust and computer upgrade. Rough idle. RPM operating range:2200-6200. .550/.550, 242/246 .050 dur, 113LSAComp Cams PI XE278AH 2V Cams
CROWER STAGE 1 Excellent for stock replacement. No other modifications required. RPM Range: Idle to 5500+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower.
CROWER Stage 2 Hot street profile. Emphasis on mid range. Spring Recommended. RPM range: 1250 to 6000+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower.
CROWER Stage 3 Street/Strip profile. Emphasis on top end power. Spring required. RPM range: 1750 to 6750+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower
So many choices who to go with me running an auto im really kinda F****ed unless i want to change out my torque converter which looks like what i have to do Crower doesnt give any cam spec COMP PI XE278AH 2V Cams
and VT stage two both call for tourque converter upgrade atleast a 2400 stall if i do that i dont know if ill get lock up at crusin speed in od?
any input would be apreciated...........................and dont say 5 speed its not happening LOL
VTSTAGE 2 Gains of 30-35rwhp are common. Like 3.73 gear or better and 2800+ stall in auto's. MUST BE TUNED AFTER INSTALL. .560/.575 lift, 225/235 .050" duration, 108 LSA
SOHC - Stock replacement cam with more RV power. Better torque and power. WIll work with stock computer. RPM operating range:1200-5200. .500/.500, 262/270 .050 dur, 114LSA COMP CAMS XE262H 2V Cams
SOHC - Hot street cam, needs 3.55+ gears. 2000+ stall. Needs intake, exhaust and computer upgrade. Noticable idle. RPM operating range:1800-5800. .550/.550, 234/238 .050 dur, 113LSAComp Cams PI XE270AH 2V Cams
SOHC - Street/Strip, needs 3.73+ gears, 2400+ stall. Needs aftermarket intake, exhaust and computer upgrade. Rough idle. RPM operating range:2200-6200. .550/.550, 242/246 .050 dur, 113LSAComp Cams PI XE278AH 2V Cams
CROWER STAGE 1 Excellent for stock replacement. No other modifications required. RPM Range: Idle to 5500+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower.
CROWER Stage 2 Hot street profile. Emphasis on mid range. Spring Recommended. RPM range: 1250 to 6000+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower.
CROWER Stage 3 Street/Strip profile. Emphasis on top end power. Spring required. RPM range: 1750 to 6750+ on 4.6L, 5.4L will be lower
So many choices who to go with me running an auto im really kinda F****ed unless i want to change out my torque converter which looks like what i have to do Crower doesnt give any cam spec COMP PI XE278AH 2V Cams
and VT stage two both call for tourque converter upgrade atleast a 2400 stall if i do that i dont know if ill get lock up at crusin speed in od?
any input would be apreciated...........................and dont say 5 speed its not happening LOL
02-25-2007, 05:48 PM
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There are a few guys at Mod Depot running those cams with good success.
Just make sure on what you choose.Took me a full year before i decided on the VT's,and i was originally going to go with the comp cams.I went threw every post,dyno graph to mods,and all the tech on Mod Depot's forum board,and Stangnet's forum boards.
I myself wanted cams that allowed drivability,cams that made power on there OWN without having to dish out all kinds of money that i couldn't afford all at once to get the other components to make the cams work(joys of a builders budget ),but yet to have those other components inhance the power level of the cams that already make good power when the funds allow.
Comps have a good rep,but...they are about production aswell,not a bad thing,but..,and have been known to have a few cams here and there out of spec to what was suppost to be spec'd.
Crowers have a good rep,but...from what i've seen for the little 2V,numbers werent that great unless you did the headers,and intake,yada yada yada,so to me that was limited in what they offered.
VT engines live and work with modular motors,that right there was the #1 reason in part of my choice to going with VT's,they have a good rep.There cams GUARRANTY the hp #'s they state when advertising there cams,the above 2 don't.
I know a few guys running the 262's from comp,and make nowhere near what i have read,and graphs i've seen from guys running the VT stage I's n/a cams.
And that is for bolt on to bolt on.But that also could be in the tune.
What ever you choose,good luck,cause there is lots of variety of cams to choose from,but only one set will be right for you.
And for the cost to do the cam swaps in a 2V,plus the price for parts for the 2V,you want to do this once.
Cheers!
Just make sure on what you choose.Took me a full year before i decided on the VT's,and i was originally going to go with the comp cams.I went threw every post,dyno graph to mods,and all the tech on Mod Depot's forum board,and Stangnet's forum boards.
I myself wanted cams that allowed drivability,cams that made power on there OWN without having to dish out all kinds of money that i couldn't afford all at once to get the other components to make the cams work(joys of a builders budget
),but yet to have those other components inhance the power level of the cams that already make good power when the funds allow.Comps have a good rep,but...they are about production aswell,not a bad thing,but..,and have been known to have a few cams here and there out of spec to what was suppost to be spec'd.
Crowers have a good rep,but...from what i've seen for the little 2V,numbers werent that great unless you did the headers,and intake,yada yada yada,so to me that was limited in what they offered.
VT engines live and work with modular motors,that right there was the #1 reason in part of my choice to going with VT's,they have a good rep.There cams GUARRANTY the hp #'s they state when advertising there cams,the above 2 don't.
I know a few guys running the 262's from comp,and make nowhere near what i have read,and graphs i've seen from guys running the VT stage I's n/a cams.
And that is for bolt on to bolt on.But that also could be in the tune.
What ever you choose,good luck,cause there is lots of variety of cams to choose from,but only one set will be right for you.
And for the cost to do the cam swaps in a 2V,plus the price for parts for the 2V,you want to do this once.
Cheers!
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02-25-2007, 06:01 PM
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There are a few guys at Mod Depot running those cams with good success.
Just make sure on what you choose.Took me a full year before i decided on the VT's,and i was originally going to go with the comp cams.I went threw every post,dyno graph to mods,and all the tech on Mod Depot's forum board,and Stangnet's forum boards.
I myself wanted cams that allowed drivability,cams that made power on there OWN without having to dish out all kinds of money that i couldn't afford all at once to get the other components to make the cams work(joys of a builders budget ),but yet to have those other components inhance the power level of the cams that already make good power when the funds allow.
Comps have a good rep,but...they are about production aswell,not a bad thing,but..,and have been known to have a few cams here and there out of spec to what was suppost to be spec'd.
Crowers have a good rep,but...from what i've seen for the little 2V,numbers werent that great unless you did the headers,and intake,yada yada yada,so to me that was limited in what they offered.
VT engines live and work with modular motors,that right there was the #1 reason in part of my choice to going with VT's,they have a good rep.There cams GUARRANTY the hp #'s they state when advertising there cams,the above 2 don't.
I know a few guys running the 262's from comp,and make nowhere near what i have read,and graphs i've seen from guys running the VT stage I's n/a cams.
And that is for bolt on to bolt on.But that also could be in the tune.
What ever you choose,good luck,cause there is lots of variety of cams to choose from,but only one set will be right for you.
And for the cost to do the cam swaps in a 2V,plus the price for parts for the 2V,you want to do this once.
Cheers!
Just make sure on what you choose.Took me a full year before i decided on the VT's,and i was originally going to go with the comp cams.I went threw every post,dyno graph to mods,and all the tech on Mod Depot's forum board,and Stangnet's forum boards.
I myself wanted cams that allowed drivability,cams that made power on there OWN without having to dish out all kinds of money that i couldn't afford all at once to get the other components to make the cams work(joys of a builders budget
),but yet to have those other components inhance the power level of the cams that already make good power when the funds allow.Comps have a good rep,but...they are about production aswell,not a bad thing,but..,and have been known to have a few cams here and there out of spec to what was suppost to be spec'd.
Crowers have a good rep,but...from what i've seen for the little 2V,numbers werent that great unless you did the headers,and intake,yada yada yada,so to me that was limited in what they offered.
VT engines live and work with modular motors,that right there was the #1 reason in part of my choice to going with VT's,they have a good rep.There cams GUARRANTY the hp #'s they state when advertising there cams,the above 2 don't.
I know a few guys running the 262's from comp,and make nowhere near what i have read,and graphs i've seen from guys running the VT stage I's n/a cams.
And that is for bolt on to bolt on.But that also could be in the tune.
What ever you choose,good luck,cause there is lots of variety of cams to choose from,but only one set will be right for you.
And for the cost to do the cam swaps in a 2V,plus the price for parts for the 2V,you want to do this once.
Cheers!
02-25-2007, 06:32 PM
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i need to get in touch with sombody that has a cammed auto i dont know of anyone on here (99-04) that is as for intake and exhaust upgrades ive got that pretty much covered cams ,springs and adjustable timing gears should be all i need plus a tune but i need that anyway i dont know if this is in the budget this year but im hoping for a good tax return. i might just hold off and do some suspension mods for a while but for now this is racking my brain at the moment.
.To tell you the truth,there is only a handful of us over here with cammed 2V's,the laybour is to much for some,and the install is foreign to most,so the blower route,or the bottle route is easier for them,and most likely makes more sence.So i'm sure somebody over there at M.D has an auto that is equipped stang with cams.You don't have to create an account to search there 2V section . :biggrin: Plus,like i stated.I wanted cams that didn't need that stuff to make hp.I wanted cams to make good power first.VT's were the ones.That is what you want.All the other stuff like headers,and intake should be the icing on the cake.For the other brands,they weren't the icing on the cake,they were needed to get the full potential out the cams right off the hop,because the comps,and crowers didn't make good hp on there own,that to me is limiting to the cams.At least VT GUARRANTIES there hp rating right in in front of us in writting/typing.
I don't have personnal expirience with the other brands,but i read enough to make my descision,and i have not looked back since
!!
Last edited by 1low03gt; 02-25-2007 at 06:40 PM.
